Norther Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 (edited) Okay, not sure this qualifies as a match screwup, and squibs really aren't anything new, but I never saw one like this so I had to post the pic. Local match yesterday, the shooter was having keyholing also. This squib was his second in two stages. The bullet is protruding from the muzzle. Edited December 15, 2013 by six-gun shooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Perhaps he's just "happy to see you". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G17 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Perhaps he's just "happy to see you". lmao! So what causes squibs anyway? Is there some sort of a leak or something, or does the round have to be just way under powered. Forgive me, i am still new and learning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHLChris Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 A squib load generally happens when the cartridge (the whole unit consisting of brass, powder, primer, and bullet) has no powder. Just the primer goes off, causing the bullet to come out of the casing, but not get all the way out the barrel. If a shooter doesn't realize they just had a squib load, and put another round on the chamber, the whole gun can blow up in the shooter's hand. Usually squib loads do NOT come out of a factory, but off the bench of a reloader who wasn't paying as much attention as perhaps they should have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 The squibs I've seen, the bullet doesn't make it to the end of the barrel - usually lodges a 1/2 inch forward of the chamber - that is with NO powder. Seems to me, to make it to the end of the barrel (and protrude a bit) might have had SOME powder, but not much, or an undersized bullet?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G17 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 What are the odd's of a shooter recognizing they have a squib and how would they tell. Other then it sticking out of the end like in the pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norther Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 Quiet report, low recoil. Sometimes people don't notice in time. I know another guy that stacked several bullets in his revolver barrel. Now the barrel is bulged, but I guess it shoots okay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHLChris Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 You have to be aware when your subconscious brain screams out that something is wrong. The gun will simply sound and feel and operate different enough that you need to stop and check things out. On a stage, I'd be just a little bit concerned that I'd just tap-rack-BOOM! If your body responds to a mis-fire-y-feeling event by quickly cycling in a new round before your brain realizes that you actually did hear a small bang, you may be in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo-Hombre Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 There needs to be a different set of "recognition primed decision making" rules. One for a professional non cardboard shooter = tap rack bang And one for a shorting sports guy = "click" oh was that a squib or what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordfan485 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 I was standing behind a shooter that had a squib load at a match once. It was very obvious to me and the RO what had just happend by the small bang that it made and the slide did not cycle. The RO thankfully stopped the shooter before he could fire another shot. The guy was using Tula ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo-Hombre Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Russian ammo squb? Hard to believe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJSJ Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 I was watching a Cowboy action shoot last summer and heard a few squibs. The squad yelled in unison and the RO stopped him before he pulled the trigger again, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevyoneton Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 I had a full on squib at a USPSA match a couple of years ago. It was all on me as it was one of my reloaded .40 S&W cartridges. Had no powder and the bullet was lightly stuck in the barrel. The RO yelled "STOP" and I went and pounded it out. Funny thing, I had just bought and placed a squib rod in my range bag. Last month I had a pseudo-squib and stopped myself during a USPSA stage. It felt and sounded light but apparently had enough powder to clear the barrel. As I was only a few targets into the stage and it was a club level match I go a do-over. I would have stopped either way, one stage is not worth a ruined barrel/gun/right hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Surfer Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Not what I expected from thread title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gransport Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Before I started USPSA, one year ago, I'd never seen a squib. Now I've seen 3. On all 3 the shooter stopped just as the RO and half the squad yelled STOP. Happy to say that I joined in on the yelling for the last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solvability Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 My RO saved me from a squib- I had chambered a new round when I heard the shout - SQUIB! I have heard others - completing a stage is not worth losing a gun or perhaps worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter567 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 This is something that I have worried about at times. When practicing, even just drills under a timer, if I have a squib in the middle of a string, shooting by myself, would I have the wherewithal to prevent pulling the trigger in time. I'd like to think I would, but I I'll never know unless it happens. As I get more experienced, will I be more or less likely to stop when this happens I wonder. With any luck, I won't ever find out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouboy02 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I have experienced one squib round, I was by myself shooting steel and was about halfway through a 10 round drill when it happened. What got me was the sound it made a weird "pop" with no recoil and luckily I stopped and took it apart. Ever since then when I'm shooting and something doesn't sound or feel quite right I stop, take the pistol apart and double check. Only done it a few times but I would rather be overly cautious then lose a finger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trimmy Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 That is crazy, never seen one like that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Happened to me once with my revolver, eight times in a row!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWP Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 This is something that I have worried about at times. When practicing, even just drills under a timer, if I have a squib in the middle of a string, shooting by myself, would I have the wherewithal to prevent pulling the trigger in time. I'd like to think I would, but I I'll never know unless it happens. As I get more experienced, will I be more or less likely to stop when this happens I wonder. With any luck, I won't ever find out! I personally haven't seen a squib that still cycles the gun. Not that it can't happen, but you still have to feed another round into the chamber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amada8 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 As a new shooter and new reloader in September, I was very fortunate that the slide never completely closed after my one and only squib. Because....well, I tried my darnedest to make go-boom once or twice after. v e r y g o o d learning experience for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdrake2406 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I had two squibs out of my first 100 rounds that I ever made on my 650. I haven't ever seen nor heard of a squib and thank god someone experienced was with me at the range and knew what was happening. Both times we went to the ro station and got it cleared. I havent made a squib since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Happened to me once with my revolver, eight times in a row!?! that is too awesome! no way do I believe that was you though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
askhole Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Fantastic.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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