mhoosier Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Any clues about figuring out which ones are likely not to fire? I haven't noticed any differences inspecting the anvil side, but have been getting quite a few failure to fires lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blopez50 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) I have a thread going about this very same topic under "general reloading". I switched over to Tula recently because PV had them at a good price. Since then, I've had ~1-2 every 100 rounds. I have tried to fire them repeatedly and even in different guns to no avail. I'm gonna keep the 7k i have left for practice rounds. I guess I can justify it as I will be concentrating harder on the sights when I know my next round could be the dud! Edit to add: I guess to answer your question, no. I haven't found a way to tell which ones are going to go bang. I've gone through about 3k of em. Edited November 22, 2013 by blopez50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhoosier Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 Eh nuts, I was hoping for a magic cure. Thanks for the info and sorry I didn't see your other post. I sure hope real primers come available again soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blopez50 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 You and me both man! I've got "notify me" waiting at quite a few site just waiting for the day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieHunter Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Not that it makes you feel any better; but I have the same issue out of a bone stock Glock 34. I get a consistent 0.5-1% or so failure rate, even after repeated firings of the failed cartridge. Definitely not high primers or anything. Get what you pay for I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 They aren't anywhere near 100% with my BHP, but they're 100% reliable with my STI TruBor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reshoot Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I put an increased power striker spring, in my XDm, hoping I could make 5,000 Tula primers work for me. Now I stuck with 4,000+ primers I can not use. I get at least one failure in every stinking magazine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssanders224 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) FWIW, I've loaded over 10,000 Tulas and have NEVER had a primer fail to go off. Several different lots, dates, etc... They are the only primers I'm using, local matches & majors. They have all been fired out of a Limited gun with 17# mainspring. Several shooters at my local club use them in their CZ production guns with similar success. My sister has also used a few thousand in her XDM 5.25 with no failures to speak of. To be honest, for my purposes, I cant imagine a better primer. Sure, they are probably to hard for a 4# DA gun, but thats what Feds are for. Edited November 22, 2013 by Ssanders224 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul-the new guy Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 FWIW, I've loaded over 10,000 Tulas and have NEVER had a primer fail to go off. Several different lots, dates, etc... They are the only primers I'm using, local matches & majors. They have all been fired out of a Limited gun with 17# mainspring. Several shooters at my local club use them in their CZ production guns with similar success. My sister has also used a few thousand in her XDM 5.25 with no failures to speak of. To be honest, for my purposes, I cant imagine a better primer. Sure, they are probably to hard for a 4# DA gun, but thats what Feds are for. I have had the same experience in my hammer fired guns. I did borrow a guys M&P and used my ammo and had a few FTF's I wish you guys lived close, I would take them off your hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blairmckenzie1 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 FWIW, I've loaded over 10,000 Tulas and have NEVER had a primer fail to go off.Several different lots, dates, etc... They are the only primers I'm using, local matches & majors.They have all been fired out of a Limited gun with 17# mainspring.Several shooters at my local club use them in their CZ production guns with similar success. My sister has also used a few thousand in her XDM 5.25 with no failures to speak of.To be honest, for my purposes, I cant imagine a better primer. Sure, they are probably to hard for a 4# DA gun, but thats what Feds are for. Same here, maybe 15000 between 223, 9 and 40 and never an issue that wasn't my fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaeOne3345 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) Whenever I have had a Tula primer fail to ignite, it was because I got lazy seating them deep enough. They have always gone bang on the second hit. Since I have been more diligent about seating them, I have had zero problems. The primer cups are slightly bigger/harder, so you really have to ensure that you seat them right. Now that I have a 1050 with adjustable primer depth, I will buy Tula exclusively. I shoot them without issue from my 2011 guns. Edited November 22, 2013 by JaeOne3345 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhoosier Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 I was having great luck for a while. The first few thousands rounds went off without a hitch. Then suddenly in this last 1000 I've had about 20 that won't fire. They are small primers shooting through a 1911 and a CZ. I've event dropped the hammer on the failures multiple times with both guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skalls Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Ive had one light strike on my 226x5 competition, but it was due to a high seated primer. My x5s, 226, 229, gp100 and a pair of 627s have fired off 3500 rounds and only had the one issue. I don't regret the purchase and don't mind seeing 5 cases in my reloading closet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhoosier Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 That's a good point about seating depth. I've checked the ones that I had problems with and they did not appear to be under inserted. But I only have a couple hundred left that are loaded so that is something I can pay extra special attention to for the next 1000. It's not hard to imagine me being lazy :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain037 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I have fired 4000 through a glock 35 with standard striker spring with no problems. I do hand prime though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al503 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Been using them exclusively for several years now. 0 failures shooting them out of 2011 pistols with 17 lb mainsprings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I use them in hammer guns and have had a couple that just wouldn't go off no matter how many time they were hit. I pulled the bullets and decapped the primer to see if there was something obviously wrong, and they looked OK to me. Good price and they are available so I'll use them, but if I'm striving for 100% I'll use winchester or federals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandbagger123 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 i have been following threads on Tula primers for a while. It seems that guns with a good spring and a round firing pin seem to have no issues. Glocks, MP's and light sprung ones have issues. 2011 guns seem to have no issues. buy a few and try it out in your gun and if they run 100%, they will most likely run so. PV is out of them now in SP anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmj3 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 "PV is out of them now in SP anyways" Midway has Tula SPP for $116/5k and SRP for $109/5k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gussers Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I've got about 5000 left. I have gone through the first thousand with only 1 failure and the primer appeared to be inserted way to deep. I pulled several others after visual inspection before a match. I fired them later during practice and they all worked to. For some reason it seems I can seat them too deeply on my 550. I don't have that issue with CCI or Remington. For the price, I can't complain. I'll keep using them. I don't know how others are getting light strikes. If have to assume a similar issue as that's exactly what happened in my CZ TS on the round I mentioned. Check the depth and see if that's your issue. How else would you explain a light strike in a fun that otherwise works reliably for you? The firing pin doesn't protrude much when fully extended. It only takes a few thou and you're out of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justsomeguy Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Tula primers must be seated HARD. The anvil must be fully pressed into the priming compound, as with most primers, to work properly. I have had good luck with them, but you cannot use any measurement method for seating. It's all about feel. They have to go home hard... then they are reliable. Also... they are a bit on the hard side cup wise, so the striker hit has to be firm as well producing a decent dent. That said, I have used them even with an EAA Match that has a pretty light mainspring and even with a small dent they work well if they are seated fully into the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Price Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 the magic fix is dont use them in striker fire guns... the only time i have issues with tula SRP in my open guns is when i short stroke the 650 and they dont seat all the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPow Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Never had problem with Tula SPP in my XDm 5.25 9mm from Powder River Precision and CZC Shadow custom shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEH Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I bought 25000 of them sp and sr shoot them in my 2011' s not one failure so far.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterlingSomeone Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I have used about 4000 my self and have had ~4 FTF. I have been using them in my M&P pro. My buddy has had about the same luck using them in his CZ Shadow. Great for practice and even better to have then none at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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