openclassterror Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 220 grit run lengthwise with the tube, then 320, 400, 600 run wet with WD40. Alternate between a cross-hatch polish and lengthwise to prevent digging grooves. 600 with WD, run in the direction of contact is plenty, though it does not hurt to go farther as Jesse did. You may have to start rougher than 220 if it is really bad, but the roughest on I have seen took about 15 min total starting with the 220. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelsonAK Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I went conservative - 400/600/1500 and didn't try to get all the marks out, just smooth and improve. It did make a noticeable improvement in how the piece felt during manual manipulation - did it make a difference for live fire? Dunno if it was significant or not. Partially there's the whole break in thing happening for me at the same time I'm mucking about with abrasives.... Did hand it to a JM930 shooter at the range the other day and his eyes lit up and he said 'SMOOTH' after he played with it a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openclassterror Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 FWIW, if you shoot 2,000 rounds through it without working on the tube at all, it will wear in to about the same smoothness of operation. All you are doing is giving it a head start! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 FWIW, if you shoot 2,000 rounds through it without working on the tube at all, it will wear in to about the same smoothness of operation. All you are doing is giving it a head start! This sounds like the most efficient and fun method by far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketjoed Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 What has everyone been using to cut the buttstock down and how much can you take off safely (I would like to take off about 2")? Thinking maybe a band saw ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Any word on when th M3K JT pro series is coming out? I heard it might be postponed because of PETA and a Beaver labor dispute or something? Congrats Jesse and thanks for all the pro input on this shotti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 The new kid on the block Stoeger MK3 just took over the #1 spot; that over the CZ 712.; Its not the best kept secret anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan N Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) What has everyone been using to cut the buttstock down and how much can you take off safely (I would like to take off about 2")? Thinking maybe a band saw ???I used a 10" Dewalt miter saw set at 90 deg. It worked great. The hard part is grinding the stock pad to go up inside the stock. I have switched to the Kickeez pad and not only is it easier to work with and easier on the shoulder, but it also doesn't have to fit up inside the stock. You will have to drill an extra hole in the kickeez pad though which is pretty easy when you drill it when it's frozen.You will also have to drill the holes deeper in the buttstock. You shouldn't have any trouble cutting 1.5". Edited April 23, 2014 by Ryan N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openclassterror Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I just sent a good customer a couple pictures of a hammer modification for easier cocking, which also reduces battering of the sear hooks. On most of these shotguns, if you remove the trigger group and cock the hammer by hand you can feel a catch where the hammer spring plunger is actually camming over the nose on the rear of the hammer. If you ease the hammer back forward slowly, it will grab and then pop over the nose, right before it engages the hooks. On a brand new gun, it may even come to a complete stop before it engages the trigger! By increasing the size of the radius on the back of the hammer, it noticeably increases the smoothness of the transition, and increases the hammer velocity (and therefore striking energy) while reducing battering wear on the trigger and disconnector hooks. See pics for more details....... Thanks for the input Boom! Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openclassterror Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Here are installed pics with other components removed for clarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vernbo Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I wish you guys would quit comeing up with mods I can barely keep up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oskino Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) I wish you guys would quit comeing up with mods I can barely keep up LOL, you read my mind and congrats Jesse!! Tom sort of like this Edited April 24, 2014 by Oskino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 If you own a Stoeger shotgun check out MOA Precision really nice parts. Thanks Tom; for sharing the information about the hammer mod and Pic's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TankCT Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Since some people are saying newer m3ks fit right up with the nova extensions, is there any issue with MOA nuts fitting the newer M3ks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I just sent a good customer a couple pictures of a hammer modification for easier cocking, which also reduces battering of the sear hooks. On most of these shotguns, if you remove the trigger group and cock the hammer by hand you can feel a catch where the hammer spring plunger is actually camming over the nose on the rear of the hammer. If you ease the hammer back forward slowly, it will grab and then pop over the nose, right before it engages the hooks. On a brand new gun, it may even come to a complete stop before it engages the trigger! By increasing the size of the radius on the back of the hammer, it noticeably increases the smoothness of the transition, and increases the hammer velocity (and therefore striking energy) while reducing battering wear on the trigger and disconnector hooks. See pics for more details....... Thanks for the input Boom! Tom Very interesting. Have you compared it to a Benelli? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris1522 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Picking my M3000 up tonight. Will put it through it's paces this weekend (hopefully) and if it runs, off to MOA I go for extension, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlieh Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Just wondering but what size extension would sit flush with a 28" barrel? And what are you guys using to carry these? it definitely doesnt fit in my 46" bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 In general everyone seems to be able to run Wally World (Federal 7.5 -3 dram 11/8 shot) Through there M3K these run at 1200 FPS. i'm looking for some help finding the lowest velocity, or FPS ( SLUG) that will run Reliably along with Accuracy out to at least 100 yards . If you've done any testing with slug, Please share it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickO Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) Just wondering but what size extension would sit flush with a 28" barrel? And what are you guys using to carry these? it definitely doesnt fit in my 46" bag. I too am looking for a case. I have a +8 on my 26" and its overall lengths is ~57". Longest case i can find locally is roughly 50" In general everyone seems to be able to run Wally World (Federal 7.5 -3 dram 11/8 shot) Through there M3K these run at 1200 FPS. i'm looking for some help finding the lowest velocity, or FPS ( SLUG) that will run Reliably along with Accuracy out to at least 100 yards . If you've done any testing with slug, Please share it After initial polish attempt of mag tube I could not reliably run anything under 1250fps. My list from testing so far. M3k with a +8. All birdshot testing done with 8 shells in tube. Slug testing was done with 1 in chamber 2 in tube. Good Winchester AA 12ga 3Dr 1oz #8 1290 FPS Winchester AA 12ga 3Dr 1oz #7.5 1290 FPS (over 200 shells now) Winchester AA 12ga 3Dr 1oz #7.5 1300 FPS Estate 1 1/8oz #7.5 1250 FPS Estate 1oz #7.5 1290 FPS Remington Heavy Dove #8 1255FPS Slugs: Remington Sluggers 1oz Bad - anything under 1250. Some would cycle a few times before the FTE but they all would do it. Federal 1 1/8oz #8 1145FPS (FTE) Federal 1oz #8 1145FPS (FTE) Estate 1oz #7.5 1145 FPS (FTE) RIO (dont remember all the info) (FTE) Winchester Supertarget 1 1/8oz 1145fps (FTE) Slugs: Remington Low Recoil slugs (FTE) I am going to polish to a mirror polish like Oskino up above and try run through these again. Edited April 25, 2014 by NickO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangheadhere Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 For a case, I got the VooDoo tactical drag bag which fits my 26"er just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowashooter Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I have the black mountain 3 gun case and it is 50" and fits the barrel of my 28" but my +8 tube sticks out about 3 1/2" Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amccallister Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 http://www.midwayusa.com/product/939171584/midwayusa-sniper-drag-bag-scoped-rifle-case Check out this case, I have the 56" one and it fits my Versamax with a 12 round tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 NickO I was trying to figure out based on the different brands of (Slugs) that others are using . Whether that's 1300, 1500, or 1600 FPS "OUCH" that would run reliably in a Stoeger M3K. Granted there are differences between shotguns, but The over GOAL would be reducing the amount of "Felt recoil"= Faster sight acquisition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickO Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 NickO I was trying to figure out based on the different brands of (Slugs) that others are using . Whether that's 1300, 1500, or 1600 FPS "OUCH" that would run reliably in a Stoeger M3K. Granted there are differences between shotguns, but The over GOAL would be reducing the amount of "Felt recoil"= Faster sight acquisition. I'll be experimenting with different slugs soon. The Remington low recoils shot nicely and on paper at 30 and 50yrds, just wouldn't cycle my bolt. a friend with a M2 uses some fiochii low recoil slug that I plan to try next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openclassterror Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) 1300 Truballs run in mine.. 100% 1200-1oz speer lawman 100% 1300-7/8oz Fiocchis, Depends on the lot. either 100% or 25% from case to case. ANYTHING over 1350, regardless of brand 100% Remington Reduced Sluggers (1200-1oz I think) 100% I haven't tried any of the low recoil stuff again since I shortened the plastic spacer behind the recoil spring. Not sure if they will run now like the lighter bird shot does. Can't check this weekend as I am qualifying on my motorcycle and won't have time to shoot. Edited April 24, 2014 by openclassterror Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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