Sleepswithdogs Posted August 22, 2012 Author Share Posted August 22, 2012 (edited) I truly believe that gun oils are the snake oils of the past. if a synthetic oil can run a race car around a track it should run my gun for 2 min of shooting on match day I've had some experience with synthetic motor oils. Found that they are so slick that if there is a small oil leak with a conventional oil, there will be a big leak with synthetic. Found that they protect so well that even when synthetic is changed, if one forgets to put the new oil in, the motor will be protected for at least a couple of minutes. Have seen photos of main/rod bearings run exclusively on synthetic and they look almost new. And I have always heard it is not good to run synthetic in a fresh built motor, that there can be problems seating rings. I am convinced synthetic motor oils can significantly reduce wear, and at 6-10 bucks a quart, the price is fair, especially when used as gun oil. But compared to Frog Lube, it's true, they don't smell minty fresh. Tar Edited August 22, 2012 by Sleepswithdogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black&TAN Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 About 5 years ago, saw a sales rep demo popular brands by placing a load on a lubed bearing, until it seized. I watched as he knocked my favorites down one by one, until he applied FP-10 without fail. I picked up a bottle of FP-10 that day, and continue to use the brand on internals- a little bit goes a long way. Usually give a quick wipe down of Breakfree LP on the outside, as it's a better rust preventative than FP-10 IMO. sent via Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyro Shooter Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 For the rifles, pistols and shotguns . . . . Whatever I find for laying around here in the shop as I load up my range bag late every Friday night. (primarily gun butter left out by the assembly crew.) For the shooter. . . "Midelton Very Rare" "Moderation, . . . .Yes sir, I do believe in moderation, after the first 5-6 it's appt to degenerate in to just drinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pranavdc Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Frog lube on rifles, pistols, and shotguns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan 45 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 My new favorite is Beaver Lube. Just cause of the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Schmitt Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I truly believe that gun oils are the snake oils of the past. if a synthetic oil can run a race car around a track it should run my gun for 2 min of shooting on match day I've had some experience with synthetic motor oils. Found that they are so slick that if there is a small oil leak with a conventional oil, there will be a big leak with synthetic. Tar I read somewhere, and I don't think it was covered here but another poster did say they add ATF to there synthetic. I am under the impression that the ATF adds a "bonding" component to keep the lube in place. Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepswithdogs Posted August 28, 2012 Author Share Posted August 28, 2012 (edited) Many people mix ATF with motor oil for use in a firearm. My understanding is AFT if basically hydraulic fluid and among other properties, provides some reduction of friction on the trans discs. If it were too slick, it would prevent good lockup of the discs and loose HP. Motor oil is designed to prevent metal on metal contact there by reducing wear and friction at the rod, mains, cam lobes, lifters, etc., which is especially important during cold starts with zero oil pressure. This condition I would think, most closely resembles the conditions in a firearm. It seems to me that the properties and use of these two fluids is quite different and I'm not convinced that combining them enhances the properties of either. However, this is an opinion formed by moderate reading only, and I am very poor at overhauling any kind of trans, but pretty alright with building motors having built some good ones. I've looked at a bunch of oil tests including 4 ball wear tests, etc., but never saw one that tested the combination of ATF and synthetic motor oil, so I have never seen any hard data on the combination. The fact alone that there are no auto enthusiasts that I could find doing testing combining ATF and motor oil tells me something, and I would never go mixing 50/50 synthetic oil and ATF and put it in my truck thinking I was helping the motor. ATF is used in making Ed's Red bore cleaner. This makes me think that the addition of ATF to gun lube is probably about making a gun easier to clean, more than it is about reducing wear. Tar Edited August 28, 2012 by Sleepswithdogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlhead Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 My new favorite is Beaver Lube. Just cause of the name. Must resist.... Stop now...... Too easy..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan 45 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 My new favorite is Beaver Lube. Just cause of the name. Must resist.... Stop now...... Too easy..... I don't remember if it was in my shooter's bag or I got it off the prize table (cause the only reason I actually shoot is for free lube), but they even make Beaver Lube in a little bitty bottle. They call it the G Spot, I guess because it's just enough for one gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbon9 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 My new favorite is Beaver Lube. Just cause of the name. Must resist.... Stop now...... Too easy..... Everybody chant along.... DO IT!!! DO IT!!! DO IT!!! The new and "improved" Stilhead is leaving BEnos rather boring, sterile, devoid of character and colour. Even if I were on the receiving end of your wit, I probably have been(too dumb to know), it is more educational and worth it. I don't see why this forum is supposed to be any different then the many characters (including myself) I shoot with at the range every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpeltier Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I do not have a favorite brand lube. Never saw a gun choke due to the brand of lube used. I do prefer synthetic lube. I use oil for some things and grease for others. if I had to choose one it would be oil. I have been using Militec 2500 and tw25b for some time now and it works. But I got it for free. Also been using the red Brownells stuff. works good. I also have a bottle of Phil woods tenacious oil from my biking days. Works like slide glide......Beaver lube? I GOTTA get me some of that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan 45 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Mark, one very important point- it's not for use on live beavers. http://beaverlube.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpeltier Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Mark, one very important point- it's not for use on live beavers. http://beaverlube.com/ Crap....Well the 3cc G-spot offering sounds promising anyway. Had to read all the way into the fine print to find that one..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Snyder Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Mercury Outboard Quicksilver 2 cycle racing oil... dissipates carbon... for cold weather the Benelli likes Inox (made in Australia) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepswithdogs Posted September 1, 2012 Author Share Posted September 1, 2012 (edited) Picked up some Castrol, 5-20 Edge with Titanium. I have run Castrol in my gas powered machines for many years, 2 and 4 wheel, and found it superior to any other oil I ever tried. Did some experimenting with a very popular synthetic, but had problems with rod knock in two different engines. Rod knock that immediately went away and never returned when I switched off that oil to Castrol. Also using some "Green Grease" on the trigger, etc. The 4 ball wear tests I saw on it were very impressive. Frog Lube, perhaps I'll try minty fresh in a bit. Tar Edited September 1, 2012 by Sleepswithdogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 I've always felt that most gun lubes, oil and grease, were merely major petroleum companies products repackaged in smaller containers with a greatly inflated price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRider Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 For pistols, ARs and Shotguns, I use Royal Purple 85w90 gear oil. It does not get thick in cold weather and doesn't cook off from heat. For triggers/sears, a little moly grease. M1 and M1A rifles get white lithium grease on the receivers/bolt/op rod. I have thought about applying Nozzle Clean (spray for MIG welder nozzles)to a clean crown and comp to see if it will help guard against carbon build up, but have not tried it yet. Hurley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmccrock Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 For guns, Mobil 1, do not remember the weight off-hand. Cheaper and as effective as dedicated gun lubes, even taking into account I used up more accidently dumping it over on the bench than onto guns. Oops. I carry some manner of Breakfree CLP to matches as a field expedient product and there is nothing wrong with it, except it is expensive and not really ideal for anything. I found out the hard way that using Slide Glide means altering its applied thickness based on outdoor temperatures, or the gun will quit running. So, no more Slide Glide for me, except for those few times I use grease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorillaTactical Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Legion's Bio-lube is a winner IMO. Similar in properties to S2000, fully bio-degradable...keeps the guns plenty slick when used in proper moderation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntingPaper Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 I've been using CLP to clean and Slide Glide and Hoppes to lubricate but I just got some Froglube and I'm trying on one handgun. I'm not 100% sell on it but it does smell nice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saggy Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Slipstream, from Crusader Weaponry. Also available as a grease, very useful for M1 Garands and M1A/M14s. Ditto. I use a mix of both. Oil for the slide, bushing, and lighter wear parts. And the grease for the barrel lugs, link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 (edited) I have used Mobil 1 at the advice of Kurt Miller since I started. This whole frog boob and FireClean craze have me intrigued though as they promise easier cleaning of carbon buildup. Since I hate cleaning and love shooting its worth a try. I have two bottles of FireClean sitting on the shelf. Picked up some of that stuff Bryan Ray style at a match for free yo! Gotta love it when a company sponsors the matches too. Edited October 13, 2012 by Jesse Tischauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan 45 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 I used Fireclean the last time I cleaned my match rifle and handgun. It works really well on cleaning and has no odor. I'll find out today how the guns run w/ it on them as a lube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig Shooter Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 +1 for Royal Purple Gun Lube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxshooter Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 I use Slide Glide and FP-10 or Mobil 1 on handguns. FP-10 or Break Free on ARs and shotguns. Post #18 if you need KY your not doing something right. (sorry could not resist) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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