TerryYu Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Subject says it all. I've been reloading with Titegroup my entire reloading career and I've finally run out of my jug and would be willing to try a new powder, especially something that is a bit slower (3.2gr for 147gr makes me a tad nervous as I can't even see a double charge with that little powder). Any recommendations on what to try next? I shoot lead and Bayous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddrod Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 American Select, AA#5, 231, ZIP are all a little slower than TG and work well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 American Select, AA#5, 231, ZIP are all a little slower than TG and work well. I've been using WW231 for decades and love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 I've been hearing good things about Autocomp, yes, even in Minor. That's the next one I would like to try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSCaster2 Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 I love Autocomp for minor .40 loads, haven't tried with 9mm. For 147gr lead in 9mm I use Accurate No. 7. Somewhere in the 5.5gr area would be a good start. Ran ten of thousands of them in the last decade or so. If you want more specifics, pm me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc0326 Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 N320 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthshine402 Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 3.2gr for 147gr makes me a tad nervous as I can't even see a double charge with that little powder I use the same for my loads, and I find that if you are paying attention to each powder level, a double charge is quite obvious. It also helps if you are loading on a progressive that makes it difficult, if not impossible, to double charge (650?). I used to load single stage and powder drop into 50 cases on a loading block, then take a flashlight and inspect them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck s Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 N320, wst, W231 have all been good for me using 147s and 124s. N320 is definitly the best overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodownzero Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Solo 1000: fast, but bulky. Probably impossible to double charge in 9mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See_Archie_Shoot Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 I'm very happy with 4.5 gns of WSF behind a bayou 124. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDave Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 I'm very happy with 4.5 gns of WSF behind a bayou 124. I"ve had good results with 3.7 WSF or 3.3 N320 with the Bayou 147 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryYu Posted April 3, 2012 Author Share Posted April 3, 2012 I'll go check my local shops to see if there's any wso or n 320 after work today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeZer Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Try Clays. Only 3.6gr of powder to make Minor Prod. Div.; soft recoil, clean-ish burning, cheap powder, minimal muzzle flash for low light applications... It's 'poor man's N320' in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthshine402 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Try Clays. Only 3.6gr of powder to make Minor Prod. Div.; soft recoil, clean-ish burning, cheap powder, minimal muzzle flash for low light applications... It's 'poor man's N320' in my eyes. I've used 3.5-3.6 gr of Clays with a 124 gr bullet in the past, which the load window according to Hogdon is 3.5-3.7. They do not publish data for 147gr bullet and Clays. I've read on various places online that trying Clays with 147 is getting into dangerous territory. I would not try this with 147 gr bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortis03 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I love n320. but, I not a huge fan of TG so you may not like it if you dig TG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryYu Posted April 4, 2012 Author Share Posted April 4, 2012 Sadly the gun shop didn't had wst or n320 so I bought some titegroup and bullseye to play with. Anybody have load data for bullseye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal1950 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 (3.2gr for 147gr makes me a tad nervous as I can't even see a double charge with that little powder). Get a RCBS Lock-Out die and use it for any loading that a double charge wouldn't have powder running over the top of the case. Great product that could have saved a lot of KaBoom'd guns. Sal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpm28 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I just switched from W231 to SR7625. I love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I just switched from W231 to SR7625. I love it! RPM, what do you see as an advantage of 7625 over 231? What's your load? Bullet? grains powder? gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeZer Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 (edited) Try Clays. Only 3.6gr of powder to make Minor Prod. Div.; soft recoil, clean-ish burning, cheap powder, minimal muzzle flash for low light applications... It's 'poor man's N320' in my eyes. I've used 3.5-3.6 gr of Clays with a 124 gr bullet in the past, which the load window according to Hogdon is 3.5-3.7. They do not publish data for 147gr bullet and Clays. I've read on various places online that trying Clays with 147 is getting into dangerous territory. I would not try this with 147 gr bullets. I meant 124/125gr bullets, not 147gr. Clays is a fast burning powder, may create too much pressure with heavy bullets depending on powder charge and other factors... while not even giving bullet velocity for Minor AND pressure being over safety standards. But.. the powder is my fav as of last 3 years and 25000+ rounds loaded and shot with just that powder. I tried about 6-7 powders so far with 9mm 124gr plated bullets and Minor load. Edited April 5, 2012 by CeeZer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcracco Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 I'm very happy with 4.5 gns of WSF behind a bayou 124. That's my load with a 124 Berry's FPHB. I tried TG and thought it was terrible. WSF is much more pleasant to shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triggerbender Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 I'm very happy with 4.5 gns of WSF behind a bayou 124. That's my load with a 124 Berry's FPHB. I tried TG and thought it was terrible. WSF is much more pleasant to shoot. Just the recoil or was accuracy a factor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicVerAZ Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 American Select, AA#5, 231, ZIP are all a little slower than TG and work well. I've been using WW231 for decades and love it +1 I like it too but it STINKS. I mean, literally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XD Niner Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 I'm another fan of Clay's witth124/125 grain JHP's. It's inexpensive and double charges would be very evident. The 147's seemed to be too sluggish for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ryder Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 (edited) I just switched from W231 to SR7625. I love it! I am an IMR SR7625 fan also. In my XDM 9mm I do 4.6 grains of 7625 with a Montana Gold 124 grain CMJ, Winchester SPP, AOL 1.150 with all the same head stamped brass, Power Factor of 130. For my G17, I shortened the AOL to 1.135, PF 131. Chrono temp of 70 degrees for both. Average velocity of 1051 and 1061 (1061 for G17) Standard deviation of 12 to 13 in 20 shot strings. Too much volume to double charge! Edited April 7, 2012 by Red Ryder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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