j33716 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 USPSA 2012 Area 6 Championship April 20-22 2012 Universal Shooting Academy Frostproof, Florida Get ready for the newest Team Challenge! Area 6 is having a Team Challenge this year. Any corporate team can have one person in each division. The aggregate match points of the team is their score. Cash Prize & Awards to the Team Sponsor See the rules and more information at www.area6championship.com 12 Challenging stages 260 Round Count 360 Competitors Registration & Squadding online at MatchSignUp Starts January 15th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facelessman Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Already set up for Area 1, I think I'm gonna try for this one too!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Bond Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Why are the sponsors for the team challenge required to be corporations or LLCs? If Ralph's House of Bullets wants to sponsor a team and it is a mom and pop operation what is the difference? Not complaining but just asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j33716 Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) Why are the sponsors for the team challenge required to be corporations or LLCs? If Ralph's House of Bullets wants to sponsor a team and it is a mom and pop operation what is the difference? Not complaining but just asking. Just has to be a business with an EIN Mom and pop is ok as long as they have a tax id Individual ssn doesn't work. Edited January 14, 2012 by j33716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j33716 Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 Stages are set and approved Looking for sponsors and a couple more CROs Check website www.area6championship.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk4 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Do you have an idea of how much will be up for grabs for the team challenge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Bond Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Why are the sponsors for the team challenge required to be corporations or LLCs? If Ralph's House of Bullets wants to sponsor a team and it is a mom and pop operation what is the difference? Not complaining but just asking. Just has to be a business with an EIN Mom and pop is ok as long as they have a tax id Individual ssn doesn't work. Why does an individual social security number not work? It works fine on the "Price Is Right" and the Georgia Lottery and the car Shriners give away? The IRS does not care what type of tax number it is as long as it is reported and someone pays the tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remoandiris Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Why does an individual social security number not work? It works fine on the "Price Is Right" and the Georgia Lottery and the car Shriners give away? The IRS does not care what type of tax number it is as long as it is reported and someone pays the tax. Seems like a question for a tax accountant, which I am not. But just off the top of my head; Price is Right - individual winner. Lottery - individual winner or winners. Even if people pool their money, I know of no lottery that pays "ONE" person and expects them to dole out an equal amout to the other people who chipped in. Shriner car winner - not sure how people would "share" a car, unless they're married. I sure hope this Area 6 match thread doesn't deteriorate into complaints, bad-mouthing, and accusations like it did last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerwas Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 And now a word of from Mr.Positivity... I just signed up for my first A6 match. I booked my flight about a month ago, signed my buddy and I up today via the line set up and we are now awaiting Thursday April 19th to take flight to Florida. Can't wait!!! Squad 25 Sat PM/Sun AM. Take THAT , negativity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Bond Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Any prize money can be divided by the person issuing the award and you just submit a 10-99 for each person who receives the money. If you have a five person team receiving a total of $1000 you issue a 10-99 for $200 to each one. This happens all of the time when a group of people pool money and buy lottery tickets and win the thing. Form 10-99 is simple as all it requires is the name and address and tax id of the party receiving the payment and the same information for the person issuing the payment. And if you issue multiple checks to different team members, you do not have to issue a 10-99 to anyone whose check is below the amount which triggers a 10-99 which I believe is $500. The point is not to be negative but rather positive. This is a great idea for the match and has worked well at several others but I have never seen a match require a single corporate tax id. If individuals are allowed to get together and form a team, the participation in this portion of the match will soar. If they have to all hunt up a sponsor to accept the check and 10-99 and then pay out the money to each member of the team, there will be less teams who can enter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remoandiris Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 If individuals are allowed to get together and form a team, the participation in this portion of the match will soar. If they have to all hunt up a sponsor to accept the check and 10-99 and then pay out the money to each member of the team, there will be less teams who can enter. Uhhh, I think you missed the point of the team sponsorship. The point, as I read it, is to have a SINGLE company sponsor up to one person in each of the six divisions and make a CORPORATE team. It is NOT to have 1 person in each division get their own sponsor THEN form a team of different sponsors. Or am I misreading your second sentence in the part I quoted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeMartens Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Why are the sponsors for the team challenge required to be corporations or LLCs? If Ralph's House of Bullets wants to sponsor a team and it is a mom and pop operation what is the difference? Not complaining but just asking. Just has to be a business with an EIN Mom and pop is ok as long as they have a tax id Individual ssn doesn't work. Why does an individual social security number not work? It works fine on the "Price Is Right" and the Georgia Lottery and the car Shriners give away? The IRS does not care what type of tax number it is as long as it is reported and someone pays the tax. Really are you going to do this all again this year and just belittle and question everything they post about the match? Why not just take all that crap to PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Bond Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 If individuals are allowed to get together and form a team, the participation in this portion of the match will soar. If they have to all hunt up a sponsor to accept the check and 10-99 and then pay out the money to each member of the team, there will be less teams who can enter. Uhhh, I think you missed the point of the team sponsorship. The point, as I read it, is to have a SINGLE company sponsor up to one person in each of the six divisions and make a CORPORATE team. It is NOT to have 1 person in each division get their own sponsor THEN form a team of different sponsors. Or am I misreading your second sentence in the part I quoted? I do not think your misreading it since that may well be the goal but its unclear. My sense is that the match is not really wanting to offer something to sponsored teams they do not offer to other sponsors or shooters. There are a few factor teams such as SV. STI on the other hand does not have a factory team but rather sponsors indivdual shooters. FN has a factory team. Para goes the indivdual shooter route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a matt Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) I'll be shooting with a good friend and hoping to make more friends. See you a the match. Edited January 17, 2012 by a matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErichF Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Got my entry in just now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joedodge Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 registered and ready. Its gonna be a good match if anyone can put a match on its Jay Corn. see you all there ill be shooting and working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAB33 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Charles Bond... Stop it now! No more of your B.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAB33 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Wife and I are signed up! This one should be great, Jay Corn is putting a lot of time and effort into making this a great match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgnoyes Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Any prize money can be divided by the person issuing the award and you just submit a 10-99 for each person who receives the money. If you have a five person team receiving a total of $1000 you issue a 10-99 for $200 to each one. This happens all of the time when a group of people pool money and buy lottery tickets and win the thing. Form 10-99 is simple as all it requires is the name and address and tax id of the party receiving the payment and the same information for the person issuing the payment. And if you issue multiple checks to different team members, you do not have to issue a 10-99 to anyone whose check is below the amount which triggers a 10-99 which I believe is $500. The point is not to be negative but rather positive. This is a great idea for the match and has worked well at several others but I have never seen a match require a single corporate tax id. If individuals are allowed to get together and form a team, the participation in this portion of the match will soar. If they have to all hunt up a sponsor to accept the check and 10-99 and then pay out the money to each member of the team, there will be less teams who can enter. I gotta stand up for my friend on this one. Charles isn't being negative; he's just asking a reasonable question: why only corporate teams under a single EIN? Why not also six buddies get together and form a team? If the simple answer back from the MD or AD is "because this is what we came up with", that's more than good enough and we move forward. But just because someone asks a measly question, it doesn't mean he or she is slamming the match or its personnel. Chill, people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkatz44 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Gonna be a good match under Jay Corn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZ Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) Is there a way to pay without using Google checkout? I don't have an account, and I'd rather not get another e-mail / on-line something account. ETA Nevermind. What's one more on-line account? Signed up. Edited January 18, 2012 by RAZZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoonie Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Charles, I believe the intent is to generate Corporate interest, not to gin up team competitions among the shooters. Can you imagine if an outfit like Coke or Ford got involved and we could tap into their advertisement budgets? Speaking for myself, I think Jay is thinking outside the box, trying to broaden the sport's exposure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErichF Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 My only wish is that a Corp team could put more folks in a division. I understand we don't want Team STI to flood Production division, or something like that, but my company has nothing but new shooters that wouldn't make a dent in any division. If a team could put up to three in a division I think it would be more fun and popular, since the "team" can actually shoot together on a squad in the same division. Too late for this event, but something to think about for the next team concept. Erich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCC-1 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I think the intent of the "team Event" is to get a "Grudge" match between sponsors going.... With advertisement $$$ kinda slim these days, we have to find more ways to give our sponsors more play. The winning team story could get a lot more story line in something like the "Shooting Wire" or other media outlets. If S&W were to field a team and win.... you know they would plug it for everything its worth.... Same with any of the other manufacturers or suppliers.... With that being said... I think its going to be kinda hard to field a team with one in every division. The top 3 Divisions in shooter numbers are usually OPEN, LIMITED and PRODUCTION. Why not just field a team of 5 with mandatory 1 in each of those divisions (total 3) and the other 2 could be in any of the 6 divisions. Think about this... at last years Area 6... There were a grand total of 4 Revolver shooters...... That SUX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joedodge Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Come on revo shooters I wana do it wheel gun style this year but don't wana be alone let's get it goin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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