boomfab Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 1) .22LR stage guns 2) .357 Magnum with 22lb. trigger pocket pistol stage guns 3) 9mm Mp5 stage guns 4) 12 gauge side by side stage guns 5) All stage guns not listed above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted September 13, 2011 Author Share Posted September 13, 2011 1) .22LR stage guns 2) .357 Magnum with 22lb. trigger pocket pistol stage guns 3) 9mm Mp5 stage guns 4) 12 gauge side by side stage guns 5) All stage guns not listed above I feel bad laughing at this because I know how much #3 cost you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoShooter Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Any stage gun that we would not pay $100 for Any stage gun that we would not keep if it was free Bad Winners are the #1 thing a bad looser is not so bad. Squad mates that talk loudly about their crappy stage plans , so loud you cant think Ticks in the pants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigS. Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 1) .22LR stage guns 2) .357 Magnum with 22lb. trigger pocket pistol stage guns 3) 9mm Mp5 stage guns 4) 12 gauge side by side stage guns 5) All stage guns not listed above I thought for sure you would have grenade launchers at the top of the list!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellyn Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 1) .22LR stage guns 2) .357 Magnum with 22lb. trigger pocket pistol stage guns 3) 9mm Mp5 stage guns 4) 12 gauge side by side stage guns 5) All stage guns not listed above Stage guns are the work of the dark lord Satan, lord of flies and malfunctions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomfab Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I thought for sure you would have grenade launchers at the top of the list!! Nah. Shooting a stage with blood all over my face gave me some street cred! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springy Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Not having any targets that the majority of the shooters can shoot on the move. Home grown flash targets that don't flash consistently. Steel that you can't see in the woods. Slugs targets over 50 yards. Requiring shooters to shoot on, over, around, a port or barricade that gives taller or shorter shooters an advantage. If you make the bottom of every port/barricade angled all shooters get a support area that fits everyone. Yep, those are the 5. I think you pretty much nailed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barefoot Shooter Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 special rules for "special people" IE certain people allowed to cheat because their dad is the RM, or they got in a magazine, or some gun company pays them. +1 particularly the ones who don't tape, reset etc... Whine for special treatment and get downright pissy when they might get edged out on a particular stage by a squadmate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevonniespapi Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Wow- there are SO MANY already mentioned! Hate the "one different gun per stage" in a 3 gun match. Hate when ppl bring up the "real life" aspect- gets me really pissed, esp cuz my friends n i love the GAME- and we have all been in the real part of a two way range. Basically hate ppl that dont support th ROs. Ppl who argue w/ the stage design, layout, procedures, and not helping to reset the stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD45 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 (edited) Weather that is too humid. Memory stages. Stages that a non-Lim/Open shooter can't figure out his reloads on in one walk through. Stages that require walking backwards too much. Awards ceremonies with all the big dogs gone home, and most everyone else too. That last one hurts the sport in my opinion. I know some people have reasons to leave. But if you want to promote the sport, stay the f*#k there and maybe speak to the nobodys. Edited September 21, 2011 by JD45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMcG Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 (edited) Hmmm... I'll give it a go! 1. ANYONE who can't be kind, friendly and courteous! (RO's, MD's, Other Shooters, Spectators, etc.) 2. Adjustment of targets between shooters or squads 3. Being swept 4. The constant complainer or The loud mouth, lazy SOB that watches everyone else set-up, tear-down, tape, reset, etc.... (Ya, that guy!) 5. Putting too much pressure on myself and forgetting to have fun! (Yep, I am my own problem sometimes!) Cheers, Kyle - Great thread Jesse. Should be required reading for all aspiring MD's. Edited September 21, 2011 by DocMcG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted October 6, 2011 Author Share Posted October 6, 2011 - Great thread Jesse. Should be required reading for all aspiring MD's. Thanks man! I know your learning the ropes on running A match just like I am. I am glad someone got the point of the thread rather than just thinking I felt like bitchin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 cross country drive at $4 a gallon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benelli2 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Great Thread Jesse, there are some very valuable nuggets in here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaG Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 (edited) Mixing slugs,birdshot and buckshot on a stage. Lazy A#$ shooters that won't help reset stages !! Edited October 7, 2011 by DaG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMSI Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 These are my big 3 issues that can be addressed by match directors. 1. stages where the sun position, wind, foliage or surface condition will inevitably change and makes a big difference. I'm not talking about some rain or a breeze coming thru or some leaves getting shot off, but major issues that could be anticipated. 2. stages that are very long (shooting and/or resetting) unless accounted for in the expected flow of the match. 3. inability to calculate scores and award prizes in a timely manner. But I still am grateful for all the work that goes into a match, notwithstanding. Also, I think experimentation at local matches is good, so issues are to be expected at that level. Boy, I sound like a whiner. But I guess we all do in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benelli2 Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 SMSI You have pretty much hit the nail on the head in all 5 comments, the MD and the match planning drive the 3 numbered comments, good planning and experience make all of those relatively easy to address, as we all know you will never make everyone happy but it is relatively easy to make the masses happy if proper attention is applied. And I too am grateful for all those that work matches and using a local match as a test bed allows for gaining the experience of what will and not work and the timing of certain stages or portions there of, if it won't work at the local level it probably will be a disaster at a large event, the devil is in the details and having a good team, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b2alphaplease Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 4. The constant complainer or The loud mouth, lazy SOB that watches everyone else set-up, tear-down, tape, reset, etc.... (Ya, that guy!) +100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trey A Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Unjustified reshoots!!! Whinners and cryers . Stages set to 1 style of shooting. Making rules as the match progresses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1chota Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 1. steel targets that you have to hunt like a coyote to find. use painted steel and noticeable backers. (like the ones on the mini poppers at Ozark.) (why weren't they on the others?) 2. slug targets further than 50 yards. slugs are for shooting through walls and tearing down concrete blocks. (well in law enforcement anyway.) 3. cold weather! easy to cool off if it's hot. 4. leaving essential equipment at home. ( like one of the three guns.) 5. snakes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMSI Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 SMSI You have pretty much hit the nail on the head in all 5 comments, the MD and the match planning drive the 3 numbered comments, good planning and experience make all of those relatively easy to address, as we all know you will never make everyone happy but it is relatively easy to make the masses happy if proper attention is applied. And I too am grateful for all those that work matches and using a local match as a test bed allows for gaining the experience of what will and not work and the timing of certain stages or portions there of, if it won't work at the local level it probably will be a disaster at a large event, the devil is in the details and having a good team, And I should have added that all these were well addressed at Rockcastle. I am sure many MDs took note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripletapjake Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 (edited) 1- Unreliable stage guns at the end of a stage.... especially when you have to fly to a match and you only brought enough ammo to shoot the match and do the usual make up shots..... having to shoot a stage two or three times really kills your ammo management! Please put those guns at the beginning of the stage so it is the match's ammo we are shooting over and over again. Thanks! 2- Stages that take a long time to score and reset (especially when you are in rough terrain).... it is usually the stage that backs the entire match up. 3 - Stages that are dropped from the match after you rocked it. 4- 0730 first stages.... especially when the time zone is working against you 5- Rain - precipitation should be unauthorized during a scheduled match! Edited October 18, 2011 by tripletapjake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErichF Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 4- 0730 first stages.... especially when the time zone is working against you I'm new at this, so maybe it's "just the way it's always been". I don't understand why there is such a precedent to get a local match done by lunchtime, at least here in FL. I know that it gets hot here during the summer (I work out in the field enough to know), but this is an outdoors sport for Pete's Sake. Having to drive 2 hours to a "local" match and be there in time to help setup by 0700 is a bit ridiculous. I'm tempted to just make sure I get there in time for the 0800 brief and let the "locals" do the setup. I have no issues staying later to help tear down. Also, if I make the commitment to drive a couple hours to a match, I would like to spend the better part of the day at the match talking to other shooters and learning. Marathon matches where the main goal is to finish by lunch just isn't very fun IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoShooter Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 4- 0730 first stages.... especially when the time zone is working against you I'm new at this, so maybe it's "just the way it's always been". I don't understand why there is such a precedent to get a local match done by lunchtime, at least here in FL. I know that it gets hot here during the summer (I work out in the field enough to know), but this is an outdoors sport for Pete's Sake. Having to drive 2 hours to a "local" match and be there in time to help setup by 0700 is a bit ridiculous. I'm tempted to just make sure I get there in time for the 0800 brief and let the "locals" do the setup. I have no issues staying later to help tear down. Also, if I make the commitment to drive a couple hours to a match, I would like to spend the better part of the day at the match talking to other shooters and learning. Marathon matches where the main goal is to finish by lunch just isn't very fun IMO. Many of the range owner make $$$ on the bays with public shooters that just spend 30 minutes for a full range fee. = its how they make their living and pay the porperty tax so that we can have a place to shoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Springer Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 People that don't pull their weight. Tapping, resetting steel. Poorley designed COFs. Rules Lawyers that would rather bitch than shoot. People that complain about a match but refuse to step up and help run one. 100+ degree heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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