prreed10 Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 I like to throw in a few low angled targets (about 30 deg or so) in my stage design. My question is, what do you put behind them to help prevent ricochet? Now, I am buying a bail of hay and leaning the targets up against them. Any other suggestions. I'm looking for something quick and portable. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEH Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 I have seen a couple clubs dig small holes behind the low targets,seems to work and nothing to buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Smith Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 We use these on a regular basis either behind a low wall or through a port and they are always put close in to the shooting position so bullets are basically going right into the ground. I think that ours are actually angled more than the ones you are referring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 tires filled with sand, also bales of straw are usually a dollar or two cheaper than hay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Norman Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Get plastic garbage cans or barrels, cut them down and fill them with sand. Tires have a bad habit of bouncing rounds off steel belts. Also they are a bitch to handle when shot up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Hefta Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 We dig holes and mound the dirt so that the bullets will hit the mound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prreed10 Posted July 22, 2011 Author Share Posted July 22, 2011 Thanks for the suggestions. I'll try the holes first. Just estimated the angle on the targets, it could be less. I need to build some angled target stands as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 We dig holes and mound the dirt so that the bullets will hit the mound. Yeah. Basically sand pits kind of like fixing divots on a tee box only a little bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 2 tire's with 2 or 3 layers of carpet. The bullets stay inside the carpet. Brent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chbrow10 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 I wouldn't use tires. They've been known to throw the round back at you. I know some places use them as berms and YMMV, but that is what my RO instructor told me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark R Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 We use old carpet...bullets penetrate the carpet and everything underneath stays put. Try to use thicker carpet pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prreed10 Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 We use old carpet...bullets penetrate the carpet and everything underneath stays put. Try to use thicker carpet pieces. I ended up using a doubled over piece of carpet. It worked great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 I wouldn't use tires. They've been known to throw the round back at you. I know some places use them as berms and YMMV, but that is what my RO instructor told me. Thats what the carpet is for. Put 2 or 3 layer over the tires and so far in 5 years nothing has come back. Brent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoleroJesse Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Our range is in a flood plane... so nothing Although we have quite a lot of old rubber conveyor belt lying around so I guess that might be a good option... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 How about putting them at the back or either side of the bay so bullets still go into the berm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoleroJesse Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 How about putting them at the back or either side of the bay so bullets still go into the berm? Can't be done with all courses of fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I know but its both safe and easy. You can spend time and sweat making the bay for the stage or simply make the stage for the bay. As to the question of what to put behind them, what do you put behind all of your other targets? If carpet, tires or cross ties were well suited for the job (100%) why build berms in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoleroJesse Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 I know but its both safe and easy. You can spend time and sweat making the bay for the stage or simply make the stage for the bay. As to the question of what to put behind them, what do you put behind all of your other targets? If carpet, tires or cross ties were well suited for the job (100%) why build berms in the first place? I agree. Soft dirt works plenty well enough for our range, but I guess not everyone has that option at their range. But, they may have nice draining range that is packed with chipped rocks or what not and not ever have mud puddles like we do at our range... Different strokes for different folks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norther Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 As to the question of what to put behind them, what do you put behind all of your other targets? If carpet, tires or cross ties were well suited for the job (100%) why build berms in the first place? The question, I believe, addresses how to stop a ricochet after the bullet hits the primary backstop (in this case, the ground), since it will be hitting that backstop at an angle. For the rest of the targets, the berm is the primary backstop, and ricochet isn't usually an issue. One local club, whose range is on soft silt, uses nothing, and you can occasionally hear ricochets going over the berm. The other local club, whose range is on rocky mine tailings, never uses this sort of target setup for obvious reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 The question, I believe, addresses how to stop a ricochet after the bullet hits the primary backstop (in this case, the ground), since it will be hitting that backstop at an angle. For the rest of the targets, the berm is the primary backstop, and ricochet isn't usually an issue. I know, that's why I suggested putting them to the rear and sides of the bay so the berms are the primary backstop. Other methods can reduce the chance or at least let everyone know you made an effort to keep them in but none, other than a deep hole, are going to be as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperman Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Does a bail of straw / hay really have any effect on the bullet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fried Chicken Blowout Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 The ones I've seen just had a pile of dirt behind them. The ground was very hard and at the angle they were being shot I think it was a good idea that there was a softer backstop for them. It was likely about a wheelbarrow full of dirt behind each one. It was at a large regional match so it was worth the time. If you're just shooting a local match, I'm not sure it'd be worth the effort to shovel a lot of dirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingchef Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 We've used bags of sand, and after wards, pick up the plastic and let the sand stay in place or drain into the ground. seemed to work good. If using thick rubber matting and tires, better have some good gloves when picking them up, very sharp shrapnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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