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Any word if ATVs will be allowed? I’ve got 4 shooters worth of gear to shlep around and it would be nice to load all that on the atv.

Archie, any hope for competitor golf carts/ATVs to be allowed?

Made it in. Now its time to shop for a hotel for the squad.

Archie, We certainly all (inside and outside Mississippi) appreciate you stepping up and making this happen. Please give us all some heads up as to when the registration will open up and to whom and how. Thanks, Chris

Archie told everyone at the BNA match shooters meeting yesterday that the MS Classic would NOT be the section championship for 2018.

For those who don't know BJinPAss, he is a 20+ year veteran of the sport, a Match Director, and a mentor to many folks in the sport. He recently took on the role of section coordinator and has done a great job. BJ is a great steward of the sport and the section. Having been a part of the voting process for our section, I echo BJ's comments about deserving folks not able to get a slot. While I appreciate that this may be happening in many sections across USPSA, if there is a distant section that won't be using their slots, rest assured that they will be going to good folks.

Zack, I think you are thinking of this thread:

More like the "rules made up by people who were robbed of their lunch money when they were a kid" thread

And where in the rulebook does it say any of that?

I really don't want to start calling out match directors on the forum. I appreciate what they do, am glad they do it, and don't want to throw specific people under the bus. The intent of the post was to figure out why we are not seeing more of the USPSA-style prize structure when we (you specifically, Zack) went through the trouble of establishing a USPSA-style classification system (actually two of them by my count). There must be a reason, so I'd just like to know why. (seeking first to understand)

If I knew that class awards were going to be handed out, I would stick around to see if I won anything and applaud for those who did (assuming awards are on the same day that I shoot). If there are multiple days when the whole match can be shot in one day, then the match directors should expect that people are shooting and scooting. If there is no communication on this matter from the match director ahead of time, I am shooting and scooting. I've only gone to a few (maybe three) Level 2 steel challenge matches, and the Match Directors at all those matches didn't disclose anything ahead of time. Even after being asked.

The benefits of a classification system are so you can compete against others in your skill range, yes? I'm just wondering why we are not seeing more of a USPSA-type award system with the new SC classification system. I've never been a match director, so I'm clueless about how hard this is. I'm sure there is a reason...

I am wondering how many section/state/area steel challenge matches are using the new classification system to award plaques or trophies? I have been to 3 level 2 matches since the new classification system came out and I haven't seen anyone award anything other than 1-2-3 overall in each division. What are others seeing?

I have grouped factory American eagle bulk 55 gr FMJ at about 2-2.5 inches and bulk 55gr hornady 55 gr FMJ on the same day at less than once inch. This is out of a nothing special barrel. I agree that the barrel and the bullet matter, but it seems just having a consistent OAL and powder charge makes a big difference too.

Remove the series 80 parts and replace with the spacer. The trigger will noticeably improve

Sadly, the two people that come to mind in my are not certified ROs, they just hold a timer at a level 1.

I don't consider ROs who enforce the rules to be jerks, either. I'm talking about genuinely ornery people who are condescending to new shooters.

Today I RO’d a squad full of new shooters. There were 6 unclassified shooters on my squad of 9. The three classified shooters were me, my 16 year old son, and my 11 year old daughter. After that experience, I have a new perspective on RO-ing new shooters. Top reasons to RO a squad of new shooters. #6 No one challenges your calls #5 They usually aren’t reloading yet, so you get to keep their brass. #4 Its good for your ego. Even a C class shooter looks like Max by comparison. #3 You have every excuse for being slow. #2 You get to test your skills because you see some crazy stuff. #1 reason, you get to show them how cool the sport is and help them drink the kool aid. We’ve all heard the horror stories of bad RO’s running people off because the RO was a jerk. You get to be the one that makes sure that doesn’t happen.

I'm told that the Mississippi Classic will go off as scheduled, but I am not close to that club. I would encourage you to reach out to that specific USPSA club, MS06, for information on that match, which is held near Byram, Mississippi. The OP's match announcements are for matches held by another club, MS16, near Biloxi, Mississippi, and would be in addition to the Mississippi Classic. This year, the Biloxi club is hosting the Mississippi Section Championship.

Call Steph. I'm sure she will give you a straight and honest answer. She just isn't on BE very often, so I'm guessing she isn't aware of this conversation.

Dawson ice magwell is the bomb. I can't speak to 9mm mags but make sure they hold 10 rounds. I like heavy bullets in my steel 9mm, so I like the 147 or 135 grainers. Most folks like the green fiber. I recommend the bullet out mag pouches in single stack. Hope this helps.

Yes you did. I wasn't sure which forum was the best one to get the answer, so I went at it with both barrels. Thanks, and thanks for all you do for Steel Challenge.

What is the award structure like for this match? Are you awarding in accordance with the new classification system? So given enough entries, there would be a 1st, 2nd, 3rd for each class in each division? Or will it just be high overall, high junior, high lady, etc. in each division?

LOK made me a set of thick red grips and didn't charge me extra. I am super pleased with them.

My son has the blue LOK bogies. Those are nice, but they are thinner than the factory rubber.