Unleashed Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 I was fondling the new Kimber Tactical Custom II the other day and noticed that the under side of the trigger guard was checkered. When I got a grip on this gun, it really locked in. Has anyone used this type of checkering, or maybe grip-tape under the trigger guard? It seems to help index the grip and I would think that your grip would stay locked in. Just checking the consensus on this. Edwin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynn jones Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 i have always like the underguard checkered. it just feels right. lynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 I've shot guns with the underside of the trigger guard checkered before. Frankly, I don't care for it. It interferes with my hand sliding smoothly into place on the draw. One thing for sure, if you like this feature, you better be one of those guys who gets his grip perfect with first hand contact to the gun every time - because once you lock down, your hand ain't goin' nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intel6 Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 I have always liked something under the triggerguard. If I don't have checkering, I usually have a strip of grip tape. I even use it on my revolvers. I found it keeps my weak hand locked in position and makes my grip solid. Neal in AZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 I use the middle finger of the strong hand to hit the mag release, reaching under the trigger guard. I actually had the smith who did my match gun take off half the trigger guard checkering he put on because it would bind me up trying to get to the button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 I've shot guns with the underside of the trigger guard checkered before. Frankly, I don't care for it. It interferes with my hand sliding smoothly into place on the draw. One thing for sure, if you like this feature, you better be one of those guys who gets his grip perfect with first hand contact to the gun every time - because once you lock down, your hand ain't goin' nowhere. Amen to that! I actually carve out the underside of my trigger guards so they make room for my weak hand index finger. Putting anything there would seem counter productive to mounting and dismounting the pistol smoothly. Lock your wrist out right and it won't move anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 I am with Duane, I don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the duck of death Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 I polish mine so my fingers will slide when acquiring the grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unleashed Posted April 6, 2004 Author Share Posted April 6, 2004 It seems to me that if you index the gun the same each time, that the checkering would lock in the grip and your grip would be more stable. Thanks for the input, this good to get all sides of the argument. Edwin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Schwab Posted April 6, 2004 Share Posted April 6, 2004 I am surprised to hear of so many who don't like checkering on the underside of the trigger guard, but your reasoning is sound. I LOVE it to be checkering, helps me lock everything in nice and tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 It's very much a matter of personal style and preference. This topic came up years ago - I think I posted the question, actually. The only reply was Brian Enos': "Robby loves it. I hate it." That about sums it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 Edwin, If you like it go with it! I do prefer the grip tape / checkering on the underside of the trigger guard. Funny how fondling things is often a precursor to taking them home... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonub Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 grip tape under the trigger guard for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 If I recall correctly (from tapes or whatever) some kind of texture under the trigger guard is advocated by Matt Burkett - The way he explained it is rather than push your strong hand into your weak hand (which checkering, etc would interfere with?), you actually bring your left hand more "up" into the grip to the trigger guard during the draw, "locking" it in the checkering/serrations/tape, then you kind of roll and torque your hand back into the grip to complete your grip, creating a very "locked"grip. Apologies to M.B. if I mis-remembered my reference.... Anyway, I've tried, I like it. Its a very stable grip. But if you don't put upwards pressure into your weak hand while gripping during the draw, it won't really do anything for you, I'd guess. I take a dremel with a cutoff wheel and make notched serrations in the underside of the trigger guard of my S_I grips, put grip tape on the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 I developed callouses on the right sight of my weak hand index finger from the bottom of my textured trigger guards. There's something going on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadrew Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 I don't like checkered trigger guard undersides. My caspian ss 45 that I won in Oregon, is 'high gripped', but it smooth. My SV framed 40 lim and 38super open are high gripped and smoothed. I beveled the edges under the trigger guard and along the frame just behind the trigger guard. Otherwise they hurt too much after an hour or so of draws and reloads. I think if you dry fire enough, you will find all of the places on your gun that either need to be relieved, smoothed, or checkered. Just holding the gun the same is a start, but if anyhing doesn't index the same every time, then it'll mess you up. Speaking of callouses, I have some specific ones in specific paces just from where the grip and safetys make contact with my hands. In the web between my thumb and forefinger, on the right side of my thumb, and just below the first knuckle on my middle finger. Other than that, my hands are lightly calloused. The grip tape in the right places is nice for a while, but as I shot more I developed my grip sufficiently and didn't need them anymore. My grip is stippeled aggressively, but only so much that I can maintain a firm but loose hold while being able to shift my grip in case I pick it up strangely as from a table or from inside a mailbox or briefcase. I tend to hold the gun like an egg, just enough that it does not fall out of my hands, but not enough to crush it. I think it is better to let the gun do what it is going to do instead of trying to squeeze it into submission. Too firm a grip causes more problems than it solves. -Drew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chutist Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 If I recall correctly (from tapes or whatever) some kind of texture under the trigger guard is advocated by Matt Burkett - The way he explained it is rather than push your strong hand into your weak hand (which checkering, etc would interfere with?), you actually bring your left hand more "up" into the grip to the trigger guard during the draw, "locking" it in the checkering/serrations/tape, then you kind of roll and torque your hand back into the grip to complete your grip, creating a very "locked"grip. Apologies to M.B. if I mis-remembered my reference.... Anyway, I've tried, I like it. Its a very stable grip. But if you don't put upwards pressure into your weak hand while gripping during the draw, it won't really do anything for you, I'd guess. I take a dremel with a cutoff wheel and make notched serrations in the underside of the trigger guard of my S_I grips, put grip tape on the rest. I understood the same thing when I took a class from MB. So we understood or got it wrong the same! I find it helps me lock in my grip and prevents my grip from breaking down on long strings of fire. I find if I don't run it, I have problems griping too hard....which causes all kinds of other problems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1b Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 Obviously this is a personal preference thing. When I went back to a steel framed gun though one of the clear benefits was being able to checker under the trigger guard. I love the gun configured this way. Even on plastic guns, I stick the grip tape under the trigger guard. Like I said in an earlier post - if you're just doing it then be prepared for some rough spots on the hands for a while. JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmitz Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 I'm with Duane, I don't like it, tried it. It hampers me from locking up smoothly. Same counts for griptape on my magwell, there's no way to correct a poor draw/grip when you have the stuff on until you make a reload. Henny. PS. Indeed it's a personal thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Speaking of callouses, I have some...In the web between my thumb and forefinger... I have one there, and it's beginning to bug me a lot the more I dryfire. It's where the thumb safety comes to the edge of the frame that my thumb makes contact, and I can't dehorn it anymore w/o having the safety break off. I tried sanding down the callous. Tape and bandages help, but screw up my grip. I really don't want to change my grip, but it may come to that. Any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistral404 Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Nope you guys did not get it wrong about Matt and the checkering under the trigger guard. Matt usually travels with a checkering file so I am surprised he did not do the the checkering himself. He does recommend it. I use skate tape on my Trojan and Matt checkered my Edge. In fact I left my Trojan in the trunk of my car and it was so hot that day the tape started to come off during a match. I really noticed it be gone while I shot the rest of the match. I like the skate tape on my single stack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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