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I guess what I am asking is this: So we invoke 4.6.1 & 4.6.2 and say that the target was "displaced", the competitor did not have a "fair and equitable challenge" and thus must re-shoot the stage due to range equipment failure. Doesn't this mean that every single competitor that shot the course after the target was replaced and before the alignment was corrected, must also re-shoot the stage. And if that is not possible, the stage has to be thrown out?

I do not believe a competitor can request a re-shoot. Re-shoots are mostly mandatory or may be offered by an RO in case of RO interference. The target was stapled at a very slight angle that exposed 1/4" of the old target at the widest point. If this is judged to be a significant change of target presentation then the stage would have to either be re-shot by every shooter that shot it it after the target was replaced or we have to throw the stage out.

NJ In the house!

I would assume that fixing the misaligned target once discovered is a given. I am not sure there is any way to answer that with absolute certainty. Though most likely it would have impacted at exactly the same location on the top target as it did on the bottom one.

At a match a shot-up target was replaced by stapling a new one on top of the old one. However the two targets were not aligned properly and about 1/4" of the old target was visible. A shooter shooting the stage had both shots hit the target however one of the two grazed the old target breaking the perforation and not touching the new target. I am interested in what the appropriate ruling would be and why (as in what actual rule from the rule book might apply). As a side note it was a rainy day and the target was bagged. Would this affect the ruling in any way? P.S. I am not the shooter nor am I seeking to challenge the ruling that was made in any way. The question is being asked for educational purposes only.

I disagree. It really does not depend on why. If a D.Q. offense is committed, a D.Q. should be issued. No. If the shot is available at 170 then it is your responsibility to take it at 170 or 175 or 180 but not at 181. The only reason to D.Q. yourself here is because of not paying attention or going too fast. Neither of which is a valid excuse to violate safety rules. They are OK if the shooter's finger is too close to being inside the trigger guard or if R.O. is unsure if the finger is inside trigger guard. If the finger is in fact inside the trigger guard during a reload or movement, its a D.Q. Again I strongly disagree. Until it becomes automatic, your focus should be first and foremost on safety. Everything else is secondary. It all comes down to awareness of where your muzzle and your trigger finger. And there is really no flexibility to be had here.

Queensryche Take Hold of the Flame or most of the Mindcrime seem like they would set the proper attitude without making you go too fast.

It is amazing how much disinformation about NJ firearms laws is out there. It is not surprising given how screwed up they are. A couple of months ago a store clerk was telling me how we were breaking the law by leaving the store with the hollow points he just sold my friend. Just to make a few things clear: 1. It is legal to sell, buy, own, transport and shoot hollow point ammunition in NJ. It is not legal to carry a firearm loaded with hollow point ammunition unless you are a police officer. 2. If your AR does not have a bayonet lug and a flash suppressor and is not manufactured by colt, it is legal in NJ. Though your 30 round mags are not. Quite a few people from PA do come to our matches and seem to make it back across the border safely.

I disagree. There is big difference in $55 entry fee and $120 entry fee. I might shoot the first one if it is close enough to make it a day trip. I am not going to bother with the second one unless I have an incentive to show. I'll go to another local match and shoot it for $20 and get the same amount of fun.

The palm in the chest pocket looks to be the same model that we use for scoring.

I do not believe this has anything to do with the origins of the sport or any other tactically inspired reasoning. Sports that involve equipment generally do not allow do-overs due to equipment failures. Many examples were already given. There are many more that can be given. So if a match does not permit a re-shoot due to equipment failure, it is consistent with how things are done in sports.

Yeah, I was cringing as I ordered it. In relative terms of what I have spent on my AR it was not that much but it is a lot of money for such a small part.

I use whatever free sample gun oil I manage to pick up at various matches.

What happens when you close your right eye? Have you tried shooting from rest?

I own one, and it is certainly competition only. It doesn't leave my range bag. They may be other people in the world not as stylish as me though Dude, I think you're gonna have trouble reloading your Glock with that spare mag..... :P But he is fully equipped to score an Old Bridge match!

Lets be honest here, your poll shows exactly the results you wanted it to show with the way you worded it. The careful wording makes it rather meaningless as a gauge of true opinion. I am not sure what the fair way to distribute prizes is. Straight order of finish would bias it heavily towards Open. How things turn out for the sport in that scenario is already a matter of historic record so no reason to guess. The question in my mind is whether prizes are there to reward the winners or to encourage participation? As a match organizer I would want to see as many people shoot my match as I can potentially handle. As a sponsor I would rather see my name in front of 250 people than in front of 50 people so I would want maximum participation as well. We have two sizable steel matches hosted at our club every year - one static and one knockdown. The entry fee is around $120. Local shooters can shoot almost identical matches on monthly bases by paying $20. Yet the turnout for these matches is always very high. Match organizer manage to put together a rather nice prize table and distribute the prizes via a random drawing. There are cash payouts using the Lewis System. Do you think they would get the same turnout if prize table and payouts went by the order of finish?

Competitive knitting is the next Hold'em Poker of the sports entertainment. Soon to be followed by the watching the paint dry team relays.

Don't fear, people have been challenging me to bring a new version of the 20ft weak hand head shots between noshoots stages. I think I will As long as its not 20 yard head shots.

Creating kneeling or prone positions is not easy. To make someone kneel or go prone, I have to drag out extra walls, lift walls off the ground, cut ports and basically complicate my build a whole lot. The easy way to make a stage hard is to add a whole bunch of no-shoots. All I need is a staplegun and extra targets.

how hard is it to get used to the standard bolt release and mag release position? I use a Norgon ambi mag release. I can reach it easily with my trigger finger though it takes a bit of practice to hit it. I am thinking of drilling it and tapping it for a larger button. Before I installed it, I would grab a new mag with my right hand then push the mag release with my right thumb before inserting the new mag. As for the bolt release, I try not to run the rifle dry. If that fails I just yank on the charging handle.

Duracoat works well.

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The most compelling in my opinion is the argument for the consistency in scoring. Imagine an arrangements of two no-shoots framing a shoot target. First shooter puts two holes in the left no-shoot and one in the right the other puts three holes in one of the no-shoots and none in the other. All other things being equal, why should one of them have a better score than the other?

The easiest way to facilitate shooting that type of stage is to set it up yourself. While on one or two occasions I was asked by my match directors to reduce the level of a physical challenge on a stage I designed, I have never been asked to make a shot easier.

I believe you are talking about grandbaggers. Sandbaggers try to stay classified below their actual ability level. Theoretically that is. I am relatively new to the sport so I have not met any yet.