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  1. ZZT, The procedures you mention for USPSA are logical and are used at many clubs. The only variation I have seen is at clubs that do not have adequate side berms for uncasing the long guns. In those places, they restrict the handling to the safety area (uncasing/casing only) or at the start position. For SCSA, many clubs expect CF handguns to arrive at the box already holstered to save time. The uncasing/casing of CF handguns can be a significant time waster when the match is full and daylight is limited.
  2. That's a tough call. (IMO) It would depend on how it's being carried. If vertical, a case can be made that it complies with 5.1.3 If not vertical, then (even though flagged) then it would most likely be UGH (no different than having drawn a handgun prior to command) and/or sweeping someone if that applies. Those long guns do provide a number of different opportunities for DQs. Tread lightly.
  3. Consider a case to be the same as a holster. You do not draw (have functional access to the trigger) until you get the command. Same with a case. You cannot have access to the trigger either. Do not unzip until "Make Ready". Then, "Range is Clear" cannot be declared until the firearm is cased AND the zipper is closed. The other thing to keep in mind is the potential for sweeping during uncasing and casing. If you sweep yourself AND you are in contact with the gun, it's a DQ. If you are not in contact with the gun, it's not a DQ. I never completely unzip a case to avoid the potential for sweeping my other hand or arm.
  4. Hi Kyle, I don't have immediate access to the question bank but if you PM me with details I'll follow up.
  5. This is an old topic and the answer hasn't changed in the last 20 years. These gadgets are a holdover from the days when not all race holsters were created equal as to reliability/retention. If it is not permanently attached (i.e. requires tools of some kind to remove) and can come off at Make Ready, it is a non-issue. Just take the danged thing off prior to approaching the stage and let those with creative opinions relax.
  6. The "no more than one step" limit is not a stage procedure, it is a rule. Stage procedure is what is mentioned in the WSB i.e. "On the start signal.....".
  7. There is no penalty specified because it's the RO's responsibility to control the stage. If the shooter does not receive permission (after asking would make sense), the command is "STOP". As long as the shooter complies, no penalty. If the shooter ignores the STOP command than the potential goes to 10.6.1. A warning not to do that again is simply a courtesy. A procedural is NOT in the rules.
  8. I don't know "why" it was changed (above my paygrade). However, as written it still applies to a situation where the shooter was IN and has to re-establish IN before firing. If you start OUT (not yet IN) 10.2.1.2 does not apply. 10.2.1.3 does. The above is my opinion. You know who to go to if you disagree.
  9. Sometimes (always) it helps to read the whole rule. Please note that 10.2.1.2 mentions "re-establish", meaning the shooter had been IN, then was fully OUT and needs to re-establish IN before firing shots. In that scenario, yes, one per shot.. 10.2.1.3 appears to be more relevant here. Unless shooting from outside provided a significant advantage (doubtful in most cases I would think) only one procedural would apply.
  10. Let's not parse words. It's not about the shot. It's not about the draw. It's about the BEEP! and the move. Under 9.10.3 where the shooter does not move (didn't hear it for some reason?) the RO has to resolve that little problem but that is unrelated to the dot. 5.7.2 and 5.7.6 do not exclude shooter created "malfunctions". If I were to look down and see my dot is off before the beep, all I have to do is to not be in the correct start position and the RO cannot issue the start signal. But once the BEEP is issued correctly and the shooter twitches, the shooter owns it.
  11. You have to trim both sides of the forward corners and lower the right side mag catch hole about 1/16" I may have pictures available tonight.
  12. This is what we have been teaching for some time now: - Coaching is only intended to be used for new shooters at local matches only. The shooter should have been offered and accepted coaching which comes from the RO, not from the peanut gallery. - The shooter must be informed of the nature of the coaching (reminder of reloads, etc.) - The RO may allow the coaching to be done by a specified person such as a parent. I prefer to avoid this unless I know both individuals involved. - Coaching has no place at higher level matches. - Safety issues and the RO's handling of those are unrelated to coaching. Safety always comes first.
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