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@joseywales is correct. 9.2.2 is very clear.

Painting is a requirement. It bothers me when distinctions are made between competitive shooters and “fun” shooters. SCSA is a competitive sport. A simple concept but very challenging when advancing thru classifications. Only hits or punitive misses. Many of us (SCSA shooters) invest thousands of dollars in equipment and ammo so yes, we want paint and it’s required and expected if I drive to an an official match. The only reason painting is an issue are the people that don’t think they should paint. At our matches we call for painters. It is also part of shooters meeting before every match. We also will talk to those that don’t. We also make sure the on-deck shooter is ready to go. If the on deck shooter doesn’t want paint he / she shouts out no-paint after range is clear called out….and accepts the risk of how misses are called. it’s interesting that our usual squad usually pushes the squad ahead of us….and yet we paint between shooters. Are we competitive …yes. Do we joke and have fun….yes. Go figure.

Thanks. my gun arrived yesterday. Custom Works version. Magwell was simple to take off. Good combo gun…..CO, LO. I’m waiting on my Gray Gun trigger kit. But when I checked my trigger currently in the gun it’s right around….average….4.25 lbs. a friend of mine got 2.5 lb with his Gray Gun kit. What are you guys with GG kit getting on trigger pull? thanks

Thank you.

This was from a post last year. I want to buy a Sig MAX 9 for Carry Optics. I see that the magwell must be removed. Question: Is the magwell attached with set screws making it an easy process to take off and add back on? If asked and answered, sorry.....I just didn't see it. Thanks,

Most scholastic matches, and maybe Rimfire Challenge requires chamber flag in pistols. I very rarely see a holstered Rimfire pistol. Most, if not all are cased. In fact, in SCSA most center fired handguns are cased. Why lug around a heavy pistol.

Jodi, we (our match RO’s) are sticklers for safety and the rules in 8.3 Range Commands. There is enough use of the words “chamber flags” to distinguish between in the chamber vs sticking something down in magwell. If a PCC is uncashed with twine only in magwell the shooter will be told to insert the twine inside the chamber when we go thru the unload and show clear phase. Sometimes we have extra big bore chamber flags to hand out. A bolt closed on a chamber flag should be proof positive the chamber is empty. I personally don’t like twine…. In any circumstance but that’s me. I was just curious how/why the extra step was part of the procedure. Handguns (thankfully) are not flagged so different from PCC other than both are centerfire. Anyway, this is not a fall on a sword item…..just curiosity. thanks

I don’t disagree regarding magwell. But to me twine in magwell is not a chamber flag. If twine or flag were inserted in the chamber, I doubt there could be a round in there. Yes? Rimfire was only mentioned as a comparison because it’s a single step to put in chamber flag. No one hammers down rimfire.

@shred @JodiH dry fire rimfire not the question. Hammer down on PCC after unload show clear….basically pulling bolt back a second time then flag. So the question is why the hammer down on PCC before flagging? Since a rule, is this step a safety precaution for something? I can ask Troy or send an inquiry to Zack but I was curious what others know about this. thanks

@JodiH care to add your thoughts to this rule and inconsistency? USPSA vs SCSA? BTW….it’s my personal opinion that PCC chamber flags should be big bore flags and not weedeater twine. thanks

PCC……At every match we (RO’s) get questioned on why PCC’s require the hammer down step before flagging. The answer is because it’s in the rules. RFPO…..no hammer down….no flag…Case or holster. RFRO….no hammer down….flag…Case or secure in cart. I know the argument about not dry firing rimfire. But if PCC’s are to be flagged, why add the step of hammer down? RFPO…..what makes it different from RFRO with no flag being required? clearly I’m retired and bored today so too many random thoughts

I know. This thought is one I’ve had for years. Holster covers trigger guard. Trigger finger not engaged inside the trigger guard until after the draw….same for both style guns. Striker guns nowadays have some awesome triggers. I’m not advocating……I’m always been somewhat curious about the difference in competitions. BTW…..carry vs competition different story in my mind. Stock striker trigger and stock hammer fired triggers for everyday carry.

Apparently the new shooter was not familiar with how to lower the hammer. It was after the match when we discussed what happened with the DQ. next time he will be given the option to shoot limited if he wants to avoid lowering the hammer. Side comment: Exposed hammer back. Must be locked and safety on. Striker fire gun with trigger job and light pound pull…..internally cocked. No safety….no fuss. Slap and fire. What’s the real difference between this striker fired gun and one with exposed hammer cocked and safety not on? Trigger pull about same weight on both guns.

Limited makes sense. Avoids that risky AD potential.

I’m not a CZ guy so not knowledgeable about all the models. Would it be legal under SCSA to shoot it as Limited and leave it cocked and locked?