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The storm would be an awesome choice for PCC. I regret the day I sold mine, especially now. I never had an issue with it( other then it being but ugly). It was extremely accurate, and I would imagine they are pretty cheap.

Do you want to go in halfies??? Crap we might need more people. Maybe we could talk some bums into selling us some organs for a value meal. Sorry that was of poor taste, but seriously think about it.

Efficiency... Economy of Motion... Are the name of the game. This in a sport of based on time. I would say bullets forward always; However, if you happen to be one of the freaks of nature that is blessed freakish skill to load bullets out go with it. However, if you are getting beat consistently, and the better shooters are offering advice... Listen Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

No, on back order Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It should, it is a production issued pistol and it does fit in box Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The Sig Legion SAO P226... Is honestly the best of everything you are looking for. It is Sig 226/ 1911 love child. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Exactly, When you wear the shoot me vest anywhere outside the IDPA match, Are you really carrying concealed? Especially when worn with the an NRA hat(my favorite is the red ones). Might as well wear a flashing Neon arrow that's announces: "Dork with a gun".

I'm just an A class Production hack. I don't have any delusions of winning HOA and I fully expect to get beat by PCC shooters. That doesn't bother me at all actually. Silly Production shooter(xoxo)... seriously, I think you will be surprised how the times aren't going to be that different. Yes the carbines will have stages that they have an advantage, but there will be a lot of stages were they will be a handicap. Like I have said before, that challenge is going to be good for the sport. Form a realistic standpoint, how many carry optics have you seen show up at matches, a couple at most. It will be the same with the carbines. Carbines are expensive, the legal issue is expensive and timely, unless you go the 16" route which you lose the advantage of carbine.

Skills: Drawing, Reloads, Acquiring sight picture, Trigger control, Shot calling Repeated exercises: Dry fire, Live fire Actual application: Matches, "real life" IDPA technically is both training and practice...just depends on the "Actual application" I agree completely with this statement. As you stated depends on intent. a very wise man taught me that Stress or how we respond can be conditioned, he believed that since shooting at each other is impractical. That time was a great way to artificially induce stress. Thus why I got in to competitive shooting. To "Practice" and "Train" to cope with stress in an environment that is forgiving, rather then to learn in the "real world". Now this application does't completely negate the stress of really get shot at, but it helps to manage it better then if I didn't. It also builds instinctive actions of being able to shoot on the move accurately, with confidence. I can't say every persons motivation of shooting IDPA is like mine, or that the factors that led me to IDPA are the same but in the end honestly everyone that shoots in the matches I do is getting exactly the same training and practice I am, just at a different levels of understanding.

Quarter Circle 10 has some interesting options too. They offer colt and glock options. Price isn't horrible either.

^^^ This. It's already been established in the PCC thread that it will change the match. When PCC advocates were confronted with certain shooting challenges commonly seen in handgun matches that would not be possible with a rifle, the responses went full retard. There's talk of adding additional shooting boxes just for the PCC shooters that would not be able to complete the challenge or not including shooting challenges that include using a rope for support while in a hard lean because they are not safe. So, if it is forgone conclusion in your mind. Why ask the question? So that you can find people to agree with you, or just to fuel more debate? Steel Challenge seems capable of managing them. Some of local USPSA matches have been more then capable of running them. It is just another gun, and that's it. The basic safety rules aren't going to change magically because of the introduction of carbines.As for these magical positions, known only to pistol sports, get real. Of the 1,000 of 3gun matches every year, I can attest that you are put in some awkward positions, all the while maintaining safety. Bottom line, If you don't like them, don't shoot them! The last match I was at, you were given choice to shoot the division you wanted to. I am pretty sure it's universal to all matches. I have my opinion of it just like you do. The original intent of the thread was to simply gauge where everyone stood on the matter, which I think was accomplished. Are you suggesting that I shouldn't have started the thread because I don't share your opinion? Either way, I'm over it and you're not going to drag me back into this trash heap, Doug. Nice try though. Oh or your coming, Dom! Whether you like or not! I don't think this is bad for the sport, but I don't think PCC shooters will have the advantage that people think they will. There will always be trade offs. It is the yin and yang issue. With PCC's yes there will be some longer range advantages and starting from a depressed muzzle will offer fast initial shot times. However those advantages are negated at extreme close ranges, when moving, and multiple transitions (trust me). Try to run with a carbine shouldered, it ain't as fast as some think. Not to mention lateral shoot and move. Hold-offs! Reloads! Table starts! Barriers! Ports! All of these are complicated with the Carbine. That is the challenge, but that is what makes it fun. -Love You, Dom

^^^ This. It's already been established in the PCC thread that it will change the match. When PCC advocates were confronted with certain shooting challenges commonly seen in handgun matches that would not be possible with a rifle, the responses went full retard. There's talk of adding additional shooting boxes just for the PCC shooters that would not be able to complete the challenge or not including shooting challenges that include using a rope for support while in a hard lean because they are not safe. So, if it is forgone conclusion in your mind. Why ask the question? So that you can find people to agree with you, or just to fuel more debate? Steel Challenge seems capable of managing them. Some of local USPSA matches have been more then capable of running them. It is just another gun, and that's it. The basic safety rules aren't going to change magically because of the introduction of carbines. As for these magical positions, known only to pistol sports, get real. Of the 1,000 of 3gun matches every year, I can attest that you are put in some awkward positions, all the while maintaining safety. Bottom line, If you don't like them, don't shoot them! The last match I was at, you were given choice to shoot the division you wanted to. I am pretty sure it's universal to all matches.

He does, she does.... Who cares it doesn't make right. Their are plenty of examples of individual who have shot through horrible fundamentals. Good on all of them in practicing past their limitations. However, I wouldn't except that a known technique fallacy is the ultimate solution to your poor shooting. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I would say from experience that the ALS/GLS are the best retention holsters on the market. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Actually you are starting to see 34/35 as service pistols. Using that logic a 1911 isn't a service pistol either. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You're right, I want a 25mm division for my BFV. They got one, actually a couple of them: the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th. They are very boring Divisions though, they don't shoot much, PT much, or really much of anything. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

All this complaining for just another gun, in the sport of shooting guns. Nobody is making anybody shoot it! Pick a division and you do you. I leave you with this: "You can please all of the people some of time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time" Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

In the tactical world he did everything right. When you reach bolt lock or a malfunction, you dump the primary and go straight to the secondary. For a 50 yrs old man, and an actor he ran it like a champ. Mad respect to Taran for training him right. Mad respect to Keenau. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

my G42. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Well, you got two choices as Kelly eluded to... You can continue to be a marginal right handed rifle shooter, or you can go to work and exercise the proper fundamentals as a left handed rifle shooter. If you want a RH solution: patch your Left eye, until your brain establishes right eye dominance, either they require time. The patch by the way, is painful FYI.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The Lancer is nice... It gives you options multiple options. It is very easy to change in and out. I have been running it for 2 years and like it a lot. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I have heard that twice. Once about the Newhall Incident, for which it has largely been debunked, the other by Bill Jordan in 'No Second Place Winner' in which he described the Border Patrolman found with a pocket full of brass after an engagement with smugglers. Thing is, this was after the shootout and the range trained Expert had successfully dealt with an opponent with a rifle.First the FBI, did believe this so much that they went out of their way to train it out of new agents. How does this relate to IDPA and the real world. Easy if you train or compete with repetition it becomes routine or a natural response. The reason we dry fire. So how does this translate to the real world event. Easy, when put in high stress event you have to counter the adrenaline dump which creates the port hole effect. You become acutely focused on the threat. However you subconsciously continue to do what you know do( using implicit learning). For example why the military teaches religiously POPs, SNAP, and Slap Rack immediate action drills. As you mentioned you are only as good as your level of training. Stress or your response to it, can be conditioned. Hence why military and law enforcement use high levels of stress in their training. Now IDPA, it is not the be-all civilian solution to stress training for the real world. But, it is a good start. For all of its issues their are some good fundamentals it reinforces. For all the complaints of how out of touch IDPA is to the real world. I give an IDPA shooter a better chance in a gun fight then some average joe with only a CWP. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I am a lefty trapped in a righted body, and for that a right handed world. That being said I was trained on gen 3 Glocks. I bought the M&P and immediately switched the mag release for a lefty only to find the out I hate using my thumb. Partly out of habit, but as many on enos have complained about grip vs hand size. I have large hands and it is still not as fast as using my trigger finger. For kids it is two fold. One it ensures the trigger finger is no where near the trigger. Secondly they aren't fishing for it with their thumb minimizing movement during the reload. I have had great success with a 7yr old and her M&P .22 compact. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

No, we use practiscore. You get an overall score but your classifiers aren't sent up. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I will deny it if anyone repeats this. I love Glocks, I have owned 10 of them, and carried it for over 3.5 years. During the first Obama scare I sold an XDM for a M&P 9mm it sat in the box for years over 5, then during the second scare a bought a 9mm pro. I fell out of love with it and sold it. I kept hearing about the apex trigger, but never bit. That was until a year ago I bought their flat trigger for the now dusty 9mm still in the box. The apex change that gun to my M&P. It has the cleanest break of any of my guns to including my 2011. It is far superior to my Glocks( the Zev trigger is crap compared to the APEX) I will eventually put the apex in my Glock 17, but honestly I am looking for another 9mm Pro. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk