Rangerdug

You are right, there is no advantage other then the fact I don't have to wear the vest. Though I will say that isn't the reason for using duty gear. It is fun to watch people get excited every match(IDPA) about it. However, that is where IDPA rules got it right. From the real world side it is a great way to do the kit shake out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

In short, Yes.I know that Henning designed them for a tactical purpose. That being said what makes Vickers pads tactical? From my experience the added weight, yet low profile design are ideal for concealment and when I have kit(body armor) on. Also simplicity of design is important. The marking system is a luxury yet still important. Especially when you are shooting a lot and trying to account for the lifecycle of magazines, and maintain accountability of your assigned equipment. If we train like we fight... I may not use the equipment I would in USPSA(except for production), however in IDPA I run my duty gear exclusively. That being said I run these pads with confidence. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The Watch Your Six base pads by the Henning Group, are a great option for IDPA and tactical shooters. The base pad clock dial gives you the novel ability to number your magazines using the hours on the face. They have a little weight to aid gravity during reloads. They are also easy to install. I can't say if Henning is going to make extended capacity ones, but I am going to bug him until he does. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I was reading Sig's information on the P320 and read that the circumference of the grip is different. Would you know what the different grips actually measure? Somewhere around there is one of these for the P320 but I can'ts seem to locate it right now. Here is one for the old style P250 grips. I am guessing it's similar still. Same frames... the 320 is recycled 250 parts. I got all excited that we had an extra 320 in the shop until I noticed the the hammer. In the 320's defense it is so much better then the 250. I have owned two of them now and they are great guns. I personally feel the the .45 is the best polymer .45 on the market. A fellow club member was doing a review on it for the NRA. He knew my distaste for the 200 series, and he baited me to try it. I fired 50 rounds through it. To rub it in he had me shoot the G41(Tricked out to boot) to compare with, which I might add the 320 whooped that butt cleanly. The Stock 320 has the cleanest trigger I have seen, there is hardly any slack. The balance of the gun is amazing, the slide weight counters the muzzle flip perfectly(it honestly feels like you are riding a wave). The grip they use is pretty good out of the box. I will eventually stipple my 9mm, but I am in no rush(seriously it is that good).

10,000 people carry compact guns on a daily basis. 317 people use carry optics on a daily basis. IDPA made the right call since they were only adding one division. Better to go with one that actually represents real shooters rather than going with the trendy one. Optics Trendy? It is advancement! Actually a good one. To make a statement that we are a sport that represents real shooters, is immediately countered by the vest. 2 years to re-engage the rules is a lifetime. For what reason? It demonstrates a "trend" of hidebound culture that has become IDPA. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

So if I am reading you right... You have never fired a shot in IDPA? You just read the rules, and based on that knowledge and this thread you are ready tell all of us, You have solved world peace!!! Damn!!! Welcome to IDPA you will fit in just fine. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I'm assuming you live in a state that has some sort of restrictions? Where would that be? I thought flash hiders were the big issue in places like CA and the like, not muzzle brakes. Nope, I live in Texas so there's no restriction. I'm on a tac team and need a device that directs as much of the blast and concussion forward. I could put one on if I wanted to but don't want the guy shooting next to me to be hindered in any way. I swear some of those brakes have rattled some of my fillings loose having to shoot so close to them. Ferfran Muzzle Device has a removable shroud. From a tactical side a must if you are running a brake... There are some other companies running similar devices the VG6, Kinecti-Tech, and I am sure there are more.Speaking from experience, solely from a tactical you don't want them. They do reduce over pressure for teammates right next to you. But they don't reduce flash(the Noveske KX3make light of this fact with the fire breathing pig). They don't reduce the noise common to MB's. Which in a confined space still sucks. Both of these issues, break the cardinal rule of "never draw undue attention to yourself, in a fire fight"!(why machine gunners have a short life expectancy in combat). Now a solution are the hybrid devices. The first one is the Surefire Warcomp. A flash hider with some compensation. This is my favorite tactical choice, mainly because my teammates aren't telling me they hate me anymore;) I have not tried the SF warden, but I like the Warden. I would give it a chance, because they are not only re-directing the gas, but diffusing it too. And it will work on the Warcomp. http://youtu.be/vA2vcFpUndg Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The MPX is one 3 products I love from SIG. That being said, $350 is cheaper then the headache of dealing with SIG. The gun store I moonlight at is a SIG Master Dealer and we have had a nightmare getting anywhere with the SIG and spare or add on parts. If you order the MPX with all the parts no big deal, but spares not going to happen. Which is sad. The other issue is finding a no crap parts list. The website and the catalog are impossible. Even talking to the reps is like trying to get truth from a political. "We have it, but we don't!!! SIG needs to fix the customer service thing.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Trace, I started the opposite of you. I learned to shoot and carry the Glock. I started with the 19, and the 17, and then the 35. I then found the 2011's(5 to be exact). I compete in USPSA with them and love them. However, Glocks are my babies, I will shoot IDPA with my 19. That gun plain runs. It is a clone of my work gun. The difference I have found between them an 2011s is they are not temperamental in the least bit. They will run dirty all day. And after easily over 10,000 I am just now seeing wear in the barrel, But it has another 5,000 in it. You don't have to be a gunsmith to fix them. Parts are cheap and easy to find. It is hard to find a gun that can control as easily as a Glock. The other thing is the best shooters in my profession shoot Glocks. The best cheap gun on the market. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

They are just so damn big though. They look really funny on a small framed shooterno offense, but the covers look dumb no matter what size shooter you are. However, if it works it ain't so stupid. I would rather go with the DAA, then the shower cap idea. I would think putting a plastic cap around a hot comp isn't a good mix.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I understand that there will be rare exceptions, but it is science that states that length will impact velocity. Plain and simple. If you are not achieving this. Then it becomes an issue of variables(manufacturer and wear). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That's some fine logic. The Army also doesn't use quality barrels, JP parts and any really decent rifle training for the average grunt. We should forego these things to be on the safe side.There are flaws in both of these statements. As it bears to the OP, I will attempt to correct them. First, these type of optics are being used with in the military(AMU not included). There are some parallels between some activities of a few in the military, and demands of 3gun. Both require lightweight rugged optics. The biggest difference is always going to be operational parameters and extreme environments. That being said both arenas live by whoever shoots the fastest and the bestest wins. Both type of shooters are going to look for the advantage, 1x8 is definitely an advantage. Let's face it the commercial and competition R&D will always be able to out preform military R&D. That being said their will be units that will look to the competitions side to bridge gaps. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Speaking on just the 9mm and .40... There is increased muzzle velocity in 6in over 5in. Assuming the parameters are equal, and depending on bullet weight the increase is anywhere from 20-50fps. Which the grand scheme isn't significant enough to overcome the increase in mass of a 6in gun. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

.22 classes would be a excellent for the sport... Especially for junior shooters. It would allow for kids especially girls to compete, and develop. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Your sarcasm/facetiousness meter, it needs re-calibration.I thought it would have been obvious with the "looks dorky in shorts" comment. Sorry for sarcasm, it comes from years of experience. It is so hard to tell the the good ideas fairies from jokes. You unfortunately have 3 strikes against you. 1.) You were a Cadet(or as we affectionately refer a cadidiot) 2.) You are/were an Officer; which means you are most likely incapable of Common Sense, Navigation, and Humor(rarely found individuals that are blessed with the humor are the exception).[emoji848] 3.) You are Air Force: the only 9-5, corporate military force.( Love truly the US Army) Enough joking around, and back to OP. Jersey's and Velcro don't mix well (especially the hooked end). Thinking should you need to wash it. The options that are IMABHO most suitable. 1. Cheap option: the Drawers, by RangerTrace 2. Practical option: Stay Tucked belt, by GrumpyOne 3. MacGyver Last Ditch option: Suspenders, by Chills1994 4. Healthy option: Lose Weight(makes you faster and more agile) and buy the extra long tech wear jersey, by Richard Simmons If none of this is amusing. You are the fore mentioned described in strike#2, and there is no help. If you did for a moment crack a smile, there is hope. If you are an A-10 pilot forget we had this talk- Mad Respect!!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

How would you rate the SIG optic, compared to RMR and Delta point? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Henning is making some great products... I have yet to someone more knowledgeable than Henning on the CZ. His customer service is outstanding and he is driven by excellence. If it ain't right he won't stop until it is right. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I stand corrected, some individual military experiences may vary. It must have been awful. I would love hear all your war stories from the academy. But seriously you want to compare an Air Force cadet life to 3gun, especially after you had GrumpyOne and others throw out better more practical options. That is what we are talking about is practical options, when you do pop one, what do you have to do to fix it? Most of the time it requires going to private place and dropping trou, which is obviously much easier then just tucking in your shirt. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Saves room on the belt. And it's faster than DOH and high ride. I've shot a couple of clubs running outlaw matches, no complaints from MDs. Looks like I'll have to contact directors, but I've had people just tell me to show up. The only advantage of thigh holsters is they look real mean. In theory it puts the gun at the natural hang of the hand. When you are standing straight up it makes sense. However when are doing dynamic movements that is not the case the geometry of the body changes, the angles of the holster changes. Making un-natural draw stroke.Now on the issue of speed. Where does the gun start and where does gun finish. The farther down, the longer it takes to get to the eyes. Especially if you add in an altered draw stroke. 3gun is dynamic, running, climbing, and all sorts of position shooting. Having something hanging off your leg as you running is not making you faster. RangerTrace is right, an drop offset is a better choice. Keep the gun on the hip. As for belt space issue... Turn your belt around, or get one you can. The statement that a thigh rig is needed to clear belt space is silly. You are not going to put anything over your holster, their should be be nothing in the path of draw. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

When in the Hell, did you ever run and take a knee with them. All of us who have worn them... Wore them in dress uniforms. Not in battle uniforms or PTs. They make a sticky rubber like belt, you can wear around the waist that will get the job done. Or as a RangerTrace pointed out go for the "in the drawers" option. His law enforcement experience makes him the SME in this case(getting in and out of cars, and the nature of their job...RESPECT)Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

As an instructor, I find it funny how most new women shooters parrot what their husbands or boyfriends idea of the prefect brand. A lot times with the "it worked for me, it will work for you" approach. Some times it works most often it don't(watching little women struggle with a .40 or worse a .45). After, they shoot for themselves, they develop their own sense of what they like and need. As long as it is fun to shoot. I agree with the idea of taking them to range where you can rent the guns you both want to try. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The 320 is still IMHO a good choice. I would throw the M&P into the mix. I have seen when instructing, a lot of women like the handling of the M&P. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I think that I'm still not getting my question right.Assume you have an AR-15 with a 18" - 24" barrel, a rifle length gas system and an A2 stock. If you remove the stock, buffer tube, spring, and buffer, and replace them with a carbine length buffer tube, spring, buffer, and collapsible stock, what effect will that have on the action? Yes there will a change in recoil impulse. It is simple Law of physics. Every action has an equal reaction. Every action in AR has a counter action for it to work correctly. As you stated before barrel lengths and gas systems effect the BCG. The shorter the gas system the faster the bolt carrier is moving rearward. In the case of the M-4 not only was the barrel shorter but also the buffer tube. So how do you control the faster recoil impulse with a short gas system and maintain controllability. You have to shorten the buffer to compliment the shorter buffer spring.With a longer barrel 18-24 inches rifle length gas system the gases have longer length travel. The recoil impulse of BGG is slower. Now, since you know have a longer buffer tube and a longer spring(more coils) you need more mass (i.e. The rifle buffer to return the BCG back into battery). So to answer your question. Can you run a M-4 buffer on an 18inch barrel? Yes. Can it make your gun less efficient? Yes, but probably not that you will notice. I would go to the heavier carbine buffer(H2 or H3).The exceptions must be noted. If the gas system is carbine length, all day. Also if you have adjustable gas block. Also the JP silent recoil system. You can change springs on it to tune to your gun. Honestly, the only way to know is try it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

From the stand point why is the Magpul better then OEM? When glock introduced the glock in the 8o's the plastic they had to work with and manufacture processes, you needed the metal reinforcement. Any one that has shot glocks a lot knows that the magazines are prone to wear. If you get sand in them or on them, creates a mess. They ultimately will stick and bind. Good luck maintaining them. Getting the base plate off is nightmare. The Magpul PMAG are a harder plastic and fiberglass, hence why they don't have the metal reinforcement. They also went about creating a magazine that you could maintain. From what I was told by Magpul, they are only going to make them in black, because when they add dyes to the plastic it weakens the plastic (Any one who has deployed and used the tan 5.56 PMAG magazines know this and the cracks in the feed lips). Like I said I have easily put 5,000 rds through them with no issues. 4 of them were identified as needing a fix(Magpul sent me 4 new bodies), I wanted to see if I they would fail. To this point not one has even had a hiccup. The price is a good reason to give them a shot, IMO you won't be disappointed.

That is not a PMAG, that is a pro mag. Often confused with PW(Korean) They are made in the US but as with PW mags, they suck. They are prone to break as you found out and cause all sorts of malfunctions, that normally get blamed on the gun.