Carmoney

Here's a free legal opinion: That's a load of bullcrap.

I am not talking about 6-shot neutral stage design. I am talking about opening the stages up to allow them to be attacked in a more free-style fashion, where multiple options are offered to the competitor. Did you notice at Nationals how every time you moved up to the next 4- or 8-shot array, the last array was gone from view, and the next array was not yet visible? Where almost every target was visible from only one area? Better stage design would benefit shooters in all divisions.

In all fairness, we just attended a national championship match where they awarded big plaques to the top 10 (of only 17) revolver shooters.....where they gave a giant trophy to the top 1 (of only 2) female revolver competitors.....and where the prize table contained a gun, a C-More, a nice 3-gun bag, and several certificates worth $100 or more. I have felt slighted sometimes in the past, and I haven't hesitated to vocalize my feelings on the subject. But I don't think we can legitimately complain about how Revo Division was treated at the 2012 USPSA Nationals. The fact that only 17 shooters showed up for our National Championship is nobody's fault but our own. I was there. You were there, Chris. And 15 other dedicated wheelgunners were there. So where the hell was everybody else??

Although I have mixed feelings on this, I think I'm going to have to disagree with my buddy Cliff. I guess my attitude is that despite everything that we have done to try to spur interest in Revo as a viable stand-alone division, it hasn't been working very well. When we can only muster 17 participants at our national championship, something is wrong. A few years back, largely as a result of our discussions here on BE, and with the help of a former board member, we got the division equipment rules changed to make Revo a bit more inclusive. It obviously didn't go far enough. Yes, we all have 625s that might get less use. But we all have 8-shooters also. (And if not, they are readily available for purchase.) As I have opined many times, good stage design would allow the two platforms to compete at much closer parity than most people might think. It is awfully easy to underestimate the penalty that is imposed by minor scoring over the course of a big match. Cliff is correct that this year's nationals would have been easily dominated by an 8-shot revolver in decent hands, but that is in great part a commentary on the unimaginative stage designs (8-run-8-run-8) that we have seen in Las Vegas the last few years. I think whatever it takes to shake things up, and still keep Revolver a separate division, is worth trying at this point. So if the board decides to allow 8-shot revolvers in Revo Division, I'm all for it. Seems to me that we have everything to gain, and nothing to lose.

Yes, it was very nice shooting with you, Richard. Our squad had a great time, as we do every year. Congratulations to Jerry for winning the match, and to Matt for making Jerry earn it. There are lots of great matches out there, but nothing quite compares to the USPSA National Championship.

So the big show is coming up in just a couple days. I am packed and heading to the airport in 30 minutes. VEGAS, baby!! Any predictions for this year? Will Jerry carry the day yet again? Matt has been nipping on his heels hard the past couple years. But Rich Wolfe is not just a great ICORE guy, he's an extremely strong USPSA shooter also. And what about Josh? He's shooting better than ever.

You will need a complete top-end. The same ejector will work for both.

Factory cylinder stop. Lube is Militec, though not much. Shit, I've never lubed a cylinder stop. I don't think it's a lube issue. In fact, I don't even think it's a cylinder stop issue. Then again, who knows?

I would start by installing your original extractor in your new cylinder. That should eliminate the binding you describe. Next, I would make sure the hand torsion spring is installed correctly, and then use a small file (or maybe an emery board) to very gently clean up the window where the hand comes through. Did I mention gently? You're only looking to remove burrs, not change any dimensions.

Many of the regulars will be there, but I agree it's disappointing to see such a low turn-out in Revo this year. I think the ricochet thing is an overblown concern, personally. It's never really bothered me, and I've shot Nats every year it's been there. Expense? Well, if you insist on driving, Las Vegas is a long drive from everywhere except the west coast. If you're willing to fly, there are several discount airlines that offer well-priced flights to Vegas--and many of them have non-stop service, which is nice when you're traveling with guns and gear. Once you're in Vegas, there are a zillion options for rooms and food, ranging from high-end to dirt cheap. And you don't have to gamble to have a nice trip out there. I'm a poker player, so I enjoy that aspect myself, but lately I've been staying at a nice Best Western Plus motel close to the range. This helps me keep track of whether it's day or night, and gives me a little more "normal" lifestyle when I'm out there for a week. All in all, I have really enjoyed shooting Nationals at Desert Sportsman's Club over the past few years, and I'm looking forward to being there in a few days! But with such a small turn-out in Revo, it's obviously time for a change. Strader recognized that, and so there is an entirely new plan for next year, with the match returning to Barry, IL right after the Single Stack Nationals. I think it's a great idea, and I think it has the potential to really invigorate USPSA Revo Nationals, and the division in general.

Nothing reveals a person's true inner character more clearly than the way the person acts upon being DQ'd.

Bosshoss, I think you're mixing up two separate issues -- 3) the internal lock system, and 4) the hammer block. Removal of the ILS is clearly against the Production rules because it would be an externally visible modification. Removal of the hammer block (which is unquestionably a safety mechanism) is illegal under the rule which RGS correctly cited above.

I stand corrected!

No, no, no, yes no, no, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Nothing will mount a C-More lower on a Buckmark than this: http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=149239

Ah, but it's so much more gratifying to follow in the rich tradition of driving home and immediately jumping on the Brian Enos Forum in order to bitch about it publicly.

I always recommend the XD/XDm platform for younger shooters.

The left leg of the sear spring.

If this doesn't cause a screaming internal warning siren to go off in your brain, I wonder what will?

I thought Chesty Puller was a porn actress.....??

Are you sure on that? S&W is famous for stamping mistakes and parts mismatches, so it's entirely possible. However, every .45 ACP Mountain Gun I've handled has been a -6 variant. Edited to add: Come to think of it, I believe the Springfield Armory Commemorative .45 ACP Mountain Guns were -4s.

It was definitely predictable. Lol You mean Benos, the place where there is an entire sub-forum committed to the lively discussion of gun springs? Where there is a new thread every month on the topic of oil versus grease?

You've personally seen this happen to 3 different people? What type of environment? Shooting matches, law enforcement, or what?

Great point.

I can help with this question! 625-2s are problematic due to the floating hand and out-of-spec chamber dimensions. Not worth the trouble, unless you can steal one dirt cheap. A few early 625-3s exhibit the floating hand issue, but the vast majority of 625-3s are fine. 625-4s are great. Internals are smoother than the earlier guns, and they still have the hammer nose if you care about that. 625-6s are the best of the breed (in my opinion). They have the frame-mounted firing pin, which allows for the lightest possible action tuning. They are also extremely smooth internally. Made around 1997-2000, this was right after S&W switched in the new tooling, and before they let all the cutters get dull! 625-8s (including the current production guns) are generally fine, but usually need chamber reaming. They also have the internal locking system, although that can be easily disabled or removed. They are a little rougher internally, but can be easily smoothed up. (625-5s and 625-7s were chambered in .45 Colt.)