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Unless they are running reduced targets to simulate range i would just run dot to save yourself money

I have a loaded moon clip gauge and they dropped right in.

Got a 627 converted to 9mm and my reloads won't chamber. They case gauged but no dice in the cylinder . What are you guys using to size your brass. Factory ammo fits fine. Pat

It is just like a 1911 very easy to take off. Its a little stiffer to put back on but not unbearably so. The mags don't drop fast however they drop but they sort of slowly slide out.

Amateur Range Report Gun Tested Sig P210 (US made version) Date 6-2-18 I went shooting today with a new gun I have been wanting for a long time. A Sig P210. The European version of the pistol is super expensive, and I could not justify it. But last year they started making the 210 in the US with a simplified barrel lock up system and with an improved 1911 style safety as well. I was worried that the simplified barrel lock up might compromise accuracy but that did not seem to be the case. Firing 3 off hand groups at 25 yards my average was 2.02 inches. For comparison I fired a group with my Dawson Precision custom STI Edge a bull barreled 9mm that I use for 3-gun competition and the group size was 3.23 inches. Until I got the Sig the STI was my most accurate 9mm. http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g299/355sigfan/Product%20reviews/Group%20size_zpsmwbty3ib.jpg[/IMG][/URL] http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g299/355sigfan/Product%20reviews/STI%20Edge_zpsq5mahfsv.jpg[/IMG][/URL] After sighting the pistol in and firing the 5 shot groups Greg and I had an old-fashioned Bullseye competition for who buys lunch. I won scoring 96 out of 100 at 25 yards slow fire while he got 91 points using his custom Springfield 1911 in .45 ACP. http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g299/355sigfan/Product%20reviews/Pats%20target_zpsfxjfflji.jpg[/IMG][/URL] http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g299/355sigfan/Product%20reviews/Gregs%20Target_zpsmp0wd5c7.jpg[/IMG][/URL] After the lunch challenge we did some long-range work on a steel target that is 10 inches wide and tall. We made hits out to 94 yards. It was easy with the sig. The front fiber optic sight was easy to see. The trigger on this gun is smooth and comes in at 3.10 to 3.14 pounds. For comparison my 9mm Edge came in almost the exact same at 3.11 to 3.16 pounds. The Edge also had a front fiber optic sight and adjustable rear sights. So the comparison was very good. The Sigs trigger has just a hint of take up so its not quite as glass rod ish as the 1911 and 2011 type guns but still very good. http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g299/355sigfan/Product%20reviews/80%20yards_zpsqmguansg.jpg[/IMG][/URL] http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g299/355sigfan/Product%20reviews/94%20yards_zpse1tuc4hy.jpg[/IMG][/URL] About the only complaint on the gun is that there is a sharp edge on the grip near the safety I will have to have smoothed down. Also due to the slide profile racking and press checking is a bit more difficulty since you have less area to grasp. The slide to frame fit is solid no wiggle or any movement what so ever. I am very happy with this pistol. I purchased it as a range toy for long range pistol shooting.

Actually the 357 sig is a hard round to feed. I had over 8 pistols in this caliber and the sigs all did fine the full size Glocks did as well. (31 and 32) the 33 not so much. Guns converted from 40SW like a Browning Highpower no joy too. The bottle neck round tends to nose dive unless you have strong magazine springs.

Not a huge fan. Lots of firearms mistakes such as safeties on revolvers etc. Also seems to think that MP's are super cops and not gate guards while local cops are all corrupt.

Not really since most centerfire scopes don't adjust for parallax at the ranges we use 22 rifles most. Thanks for the effort.

If they try that you will get your money back or they can be charged with theft.

He was happy with the .357 sig I feel a bit better with the 10mm its a preference thing of course as others will want the .44 mag mountain gun. For me the 10mm strikes a good balance.

Glock 20 200 grain reloads at 1150 Smith and Wesson 44 magnum 629 mountain gun with 300 grain reloads at 1100 Ruger Bisley Super Blackhawk in .454 with 360 grain reloads at 1250

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http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?198678-Bear-defense-pistols-practical-shooting-test&p=2519025#post2519025 Sorry having trouble posting here. The above link has the videos and pictures. The text is below. Bear defense pistols vs charging target. The reason I decided to write this article is because I live in an area where bears are a part of life and this year our state has had a startling number of bear attacks. I often see people buy pistols or revolvers for bear defense and then not put any serious time in to training with them. I often hear gun shop or message board experts talk about how you need a 454 or 500 Smith and Wesson to stop a bear. Yes, these calibers have a lot more power to work with but the subject of how well the shooter can use these wrist breakers under stress never comes up. Most people seem to assume they will rise to the occasion if they need to use their new monster mag belly gun. But the truth is we default to our level of training. I decided to run a simple test on a charging target. Luckily ANPRACS loaned me a target made by MGM that is designed to simulate a person charging 21 feet in 1.5 seconds. I set the target up and brought a shooting buddy to help me. I tested 3 pistols. A Glock 20 in 10mm using 200 grain FMJ reloads going 1150 fps. A Smith and Wesson Mountain Gun in 44 mag using 300 grain bullets at 1100 fps and a Ruger Super Blackhawk Bisley in 454 Casull using 360 grain hard cast lead reloads going 1250. I started each run with the pistol held in low ready. The reason was I did not have a holster for each of the guns and I wanted to have a comparable baseline. So we assumed you heard the bear and were waiting to see if it charged to fire. I did 3 runs with each pistol and counted the hits up at the end. With the single action Black hawk I started with the hammer cocked the idea being if you knew the bear was there you would have cocked the hammer. Finger was off the trigger obviously at the start of all these drills with all the guns. I videoed each run and photographed the target. The results are below. My shooting buddy Greg also fired his 10mm with similar reloads. His injured wrist was not up to using the magnum revolvers today. My wrist was feeling it at the end of the day. Glock 20 200 grain FMJ reloads going 1150 fps. Run 1 5 A zone hits (5 hits total) Run 2 5 A zone hits (5 hits total) Run 3 5 A zone 1 C zone hit. (6 hits total) Smith and Wesson 629 Mountain gun 300 grain XTP’s at 1100 fps. Run 1 2 A zone 1 C 1 D (4 hits total) Run 2 2 A zone 2 D (4 hits total) Run 3 2 A zone 3 C (5 hits total) Ruger Bisley Super Blackhawk .454 (360 grain hard cast lead 1250 fps) Hammer started cocked. Run 1 2 A zone (2 hits) Run 3 1 A zone 1 C zone (2 hits) Greg Glock 20 Run 1 1 A 3 C (4 hits) Run 2 2A 1 C (3 hits) Run 3 4 A 1 C (5 hits) As you can see it was far easier for me to hit with the Glock 20 during this drill and the hits were all close to where I was aiming/pointing. With the 44-magnum due to the longer DA trigger and the recoil my first 2 shots were usually the worst one’s going low while the last few were in the A zone. On the last run I was able to get 5 hits on paper. With the 454 Single action, I could only get 2 hits on paper before the bear got me. If I did not have it cocked for the first round I imagine it would have only been one hasty shot that hit. Summary for me the Glock 20 is my preferred choice because I shoot it much better under stress as was illustrated in this drill. I know it has enough penetration to make it through a bear skull. I also like the Mountain Gun but it was harder to shoot and I don’t trust it as much due to that fact. In fairness, I shoot Glocks and semi autos in general far more than I shoot my revolvers. If you are a diehard revolver shooter you may disagree. One thing I will say is that I do not recommend a single action revolver for any sort of defensive work. They are fun guns to shoot but not nearly fast enough if a bear charges. Take my opinion for what it’s worth just another guy on the internet. No matter what choice you make in a sidearm make sure you train with it. Having a gun is not nearly enough. You need to be proficient with it. A gun is a liability if you are not proficient with it and willing to use it.

I have found the tipped bullets to be less accurate than the normal Sierra match kings.