Carlos

Chris Keen: very well said. I will simply add: you have already begun to take the one best step in avoiding a dropped gun: you signed up here and indicated you want to practice. I believe that practicing (live or dry fire) with whichever gun you choose WILL make you a safer shooter & one who is far less likely to drop a gun. The loaded gun I most often handle outside a match is a hammerless .357 airweight. It stays in the safe or in my pocket - loaded. Have yet to drop it, but I believe the design makes it among the most safe.

The current Iraq "surge" probably resulted in even more training ammunition demands, as well as demand for ammo by the contractors (any idea of the total number of warm bodies over there? It much be huge). In any event, I found a much higher quality primer to use that is not made in the US: the PMC/Wolf primer. David Tubb won't ase any other primer - and he ought to know. Best parts are, they are cheaper and actually available.

Big +1. Will Schuemann feels the same. Works on my Glocks too. RE break in: when Rudy Waldinger lived around here, he once told me that with new Glocks, just use LOTS of your favorite gun oil on rails/slide for first 500 to 1000 rounds. I've used that advice on 2011s & 1911s and I believe its good advice for other brands as well.

On that note, here is the very most neutral and short description I could find of what factually transpired yesterday (short answer: we have to wait until the 20th for a possible response yea or nay). Here is the LINK or try: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/ba...,0,425366.story Let's keep this thread open by leaving the politics out of it.

The war in Iraq will not go on forever (though Afganistan might take a while longer). Once the training requirements in Iraq fall away, there might be "surplus manufacturing capacity" that could result in cheaper ammo. On another front, a friend recently took 2 buckets of "reject," berdan, 22LR, and weather-blackened brass to the recycler. He was paid over $1 per lb. Two 5 gallon buckets netted $100

High Tightloop - I should have been more clear. I am certainly no expert on constitutional issues, but the current justices are (very) roughly divided into two groups. The media and much of population think this division is alone party lines - but that is not correct. Rather, one loosely defined branch follows the concept that laws are to be (where possible) interpreted as they are written by congress. Justice Scalia represents one of the justices in this camp. The other camp, again, very loosely, places greater importance on other factors such as “public policy” (or what is best for the country) and believes in “discovering new rights” that are not actually written in the constitution, but which are implied or otherwise needed in their view. This camp is often accused of “correcting” congress’ mistakes to comply with the justices’ view or acting as a “super legislature.” Justice Souter, a Bush appointee, represents one of the justices in this camp. The Justices are not bound to follow any of the beliefs of the party that nominated them, and many might point to Justice Souter as an example of a Justice who deviated from the path that his nominator had intended. In any even, I do not want to see this thread locked, but I thought some explanation (in my view) might be useful. Maybe a more informed legal scholar can explain this more clearly. I also located this from scotus blog, explaining possible reasons for the delay. "The Court, of course, does not explain inaction. But among the possible reasons for delaying the case are these: one or more Justices simply asked for more time to consider the two cases; the Court may be rewriting the question or questions it will be willing to review — especially in view of the disagreement between the two sides on what should be at issue; the Court may have voted initially to deny review of one or both cases and one or more Justices are writing a dissent from the denial. The appeal in 07-290 (District of Columbia v. Heller) raises the key issue about the Second Amendment’s meaning — that is, whether it guarantees an individual right to have a handgun for private use, at least in one’s home — and the appeal in 07-335 (Parker v. District of Columbia) poses a question about who may bring lawsuits to challenge laws before they are actively enforced. Together, the cases thus present a somewhat complex mix for the Court, and it perhaps was not much of a surprise that no order issued on Tuesday. At no point is there likely to be an answer as to what happened to bring about the delay. Both cases are expected to be re-listed for the Nov. 20 Conference."

Among the factors they consider when deciding whether to grant cert, are: -whether the issue involves a constitutional issue (this case does) -whether the case involves a split among the 13 Federal circuits (this case does) -whether the case involves an issue of nation importance (this case, arguably, does) -whether the party(ies) are opposed or in favor of cert (both parties are in favor of the Court hearing this case) And to a lesser extent with the current Court as compared to earlier Courts, whether there are important public policy implications involved in the resolution of the case. This last point is tricky, as a ruling in this case could have ramifications far beyond the issue of civilian possession of arms. Taking this case may demand that the Court show its hand as to how it views and interprets our Constitution. I believe that the Court delayed their decision in order to consider what impact this case may have beyond the narrow issue of arms.

EGW, by far. Are there any other makers? The TZs were infamous for breaking slide stops at 175+ PF 9x21mm. Gun building and lighter recoil springs helped. The EGW slide stop cures it. We are talking Tanfoglio and CZ, right?

Official announcement is a few hours away. Rumor is that CNN recieved leaked info that they WILL hear the case. If its true, then, here we go.

Movie's message was formed by the author of its screenplay. Presumably, that person is on strike right now. If these striking writers continue to write movies that earn such bad reviews, perhaps they should all be fired and replaced by non union labor. In reality though, we are likely to be paying them more for similar movies with similar messages in the future.

I don't feel like reading the whole thread & didn't see the brand in the title. What brand again? (I meant Boolits. Guess I should have been clear).

Hard work, determination, a reliable gun, and some natural talent pay off yet again. Great shooting Henning!

That sucks. Sorry to hear of your company pulling that on you.

A switch to a reliable primer brand will prevent any slight strikes. I WAS using Federal but they are expensive and hard to find. Using Wolf now - and they are as reliable as Federal. This allowed the use of a very light hammer spring and a resulting very light DA.

Most soft: Federal & Wolf/PMC brand small pistol & large pistol primers Next: Winchester Remington Most hard: CCI and Military primers. Think of "most soft" as "most reliable."

Good point. Technical Q.: Monday is a federal holiday. Wouldn't the announcement come on Tuesday?

I switched due to cost. But then my range burned down & I don't shoot anymore, so cost savings are little to none.

The results I posted are for the shotgun match. There was no rifle match and no Tournament. Simply completely separate HG & SG matches. I know Mike won, and won cleanly, I was there. Carlos was suggesting that even someone with Mike's skill with speedloading tubes still got beaten by one of the Russians with a box mag shotgun. Not so. However, the results next time may not show such a wide gap, if at all. Hello again Neil & greetings from here. MUST you be so nit-picky?! Yes, Evgeny, Efimov was the shooter I was refering to & the match was the IPSC Australasian Championship in Bali as featured in a report in Front Sight; March/April 2005, Volume 22, Number 2, pgs. 46-48, 50-51, 71, and yes, Mike finished ahead of Evgeny for the win. Nevertheless, I believe the results speak volumes about the technological advantage the Siaga provides. Roger Madiou featured a couple of photos of the Siaga 12 and discussed it in the article; apparently the same gun was used by all 4 members of the Russian team, Moreover, they were handicapped by having only 8 round magazines (according to the article). Today, US made 10 round magazines are available for this gun. Best regards, C.

Actually, they are NOT still around (the US anyway). The gun you see above is an American-made copy; the real gun is still banned. By stroke of a regulatory pen, the import of the Austrian-made Steyr AUG was forever banned around 1989. Later, (also by regulation) they banned import of Aug barrels and Aug recievers into the USA from Austria. Only solution? Make the whole gun in the USA. The really insidious thing is that our government does not need to pass laws to ban all sorts of things. They can simply pass regulations (with no input from congress) that can usually accomplish the same objective. This is one reason the Parker case out of D.C. is so important. They began considering whether to take it as of yesterday; expect an answer on cert as of the 13th, November 2007.

Yeah, but . . . just messin' w/ you. I HATE it too, even if I've been unable to resist the urge at times.

Some of the Irish IPSC shooters mentioned a German importer who worked with one of the US-based custom gunsmiths (possibly Dawson?) - I read this over on global village. I think that German importer (whoever they are) might be the best conduit to legally export a competition handgun from the US and legally import it into the EU. Will try to find the post. Seems like international small arms controls are getting tighter all the time.

I agree with Robb L. aka TGO. Support those who REALLY support us. Companies "buy" advertizing for 2 reasons: 1) to sell product and 2) because some advertizing dollars are tax-deductable and the money would be wasted otherwise. I don't consider Kimber's tax-write-off adds to be "support" for USPSA. Besides, did you know that Kimber uses a lot of MIM parts? Just search any board on "Kimber and MIM" and see what comes up. 3 other makers who DO actively support us & who make GREAT guns are: -Dan Wesson -S&W -Sig (there ARE plently of SS class legal Sig 1911 models now). Regards, c.

Welcome Jack. No need to jump right to the .357s. There are many makers of .356 bullets that are commonly used in guns chambered for 9x19mm or 9mm Luger. Agree that slugging the bore will reveal the actual diameter.

Funny you should mention our president, Voigt & the siaga: it turns out Voigt got spanked in a major match in Bali by a lesser know shooter using a Siaga. 1) Arguably, Voigt is one of the top 3 gunners in the US; you might even call him "top indian." 2) In Bali, the Russian shooters showed up with very well developed Siagas & brakes I had never seen before (think of these as "arrows"). 3) I did not recognize the name of the Russian who won. Maybe he's a shotgun "God" and I am just not up to speed on "IPSC Shotgun" as opposed to USPSA 3 gun/multigun. Nevertheless, he won. Seems like in that instance, it WAS the arrow and NOT the indian that won the match. As far as magfed guns being "unfair" - consider: Time was, in the late 70s history of IPSC, that the revolver was not at much of a disadvantage against a 7 or 8 shot 1911. Wouldn't it have seemed unfair to the wheelgunners back then to allow the 1911 shooters to use the newer 8 round mags and start with 9 rounds? Or 10? Or 11? - Weren't there arguments that the 8, 9, and 10 round mags were unfair and should have been relegated to open only? Think of the Tube Feeders as today's "revolvers" of the shotgun world. Their time has come. Bring on the mag-fed guns! If the tube-feeders go the way of the revolver in USPSA, so be it. There will, of course, be those who disagree. Heck, many 1911 purists turn up their noses at the "widebody"/2011 guns and they regularly deride the 40 cal in a 1911/2011 (just peruse 1911forum.com sometime & see what I mean). In any event, [mod: deleted micro-ad. Classifieds, thank you]

I believe that the factory aluminum grips that Angus sells were declared Production division legal - and they are supposed to be very very thin. Another custom grip maker is: Hakan Peck out of Norway; he has a forum section on either www.czshooters.com or www.czforum.com and he sells to the USA mostly.