Big Guy Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Anyone shooting them??? Do you prefer the 121 over the 124 or 115's?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 I am interested in giving them a try. I like the feel of 115s but the 121s will make major in IPSC events that require a 120gr or heavier to make major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scout454 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 After 5 years shooting Zero 115's I switched to the MG 121 IFP's. I like 'em. More accurate in my Schuemann AFT. Use a bit less powder. Tried the 124/5's and prefer these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scirocco38s Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 I recently changed from the 124 MG to the 121MG and have been satisfied. Accuracy is still as good as it was with the 124 and I get a few more per box than with the 124. I have shot the MG bullets in both 9mm and 40 and have always been happy with the performance, but lately have not been happy with the price.(not that they are the sole reason that bullets are as expensive as they are) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 I run 115 montana gold and am very happy. Would love to try some 121's though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markm Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 (edited) ordered some 121's a few weeks ago, and have had good luck with them. I was shooting zero 125's for years, but with delivery problems switched and am planning on sticking with them. Took about .3 grains more powder to get same PF. Edited October 14, 2007 by markm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoShooter Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Im in to my 4th box ... 3900 per box I like them. I like the bulk order price with the shipping included. If they did not hold a good group I would not bother with them at most any price. In Benny Hill's gun they will shoot under 2" at 35 and 45 yards off a rest. If they cost 25% more they would still be good. I dont get bad splater off the steel too. 121 IPF has a base that is coper so the lead smoke is next to none. To be fair I have not shot allot of 124 or 125s, I do shoot alot of steel with a lighter bullet /=minor load . the 121 does not feal much dif and compairing spits and transititon times it is with in .02 -.04 to being the same as my steel load. 121 MG IFP with 7.4 IMR 7625 makes 1380 fps in mm gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 do they have exposed lead bases or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokshwn Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Bob, No exposed lead base. They are essentially a JHP with no cavity. I would guess they are bullets destined to 115gr JHP's without the step that removes 6 gr of weight to make a HP cavity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wide45 Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 do they have exposed lead bases or not Not The bullet is pretty much a hollowpoint with the nose filled in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoMiE Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 do they have exposed lead bases or not No. It is the 115 JHP with the hollow point filled in with lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 thank you guys for the quick replies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pstmstr Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 What would be a good load with titegroup and the 121 gr MG to safely make minor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireant Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 I'm using 4.0 of N320 for minor and a bunch of HS-6 for major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 In case anyone's wondering, I've weighed a bunch of these and most are 120.6 or 120.7gr. Out of ten I weighed, only two were actually 121 or more (that one was 121.2gr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 been shooting them since they came out-very accurate. 7.9 of n350 makes 170PF all day for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJPoLo Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 In case anyone's wondering, I've weighed a bunch of these and most are 120.6 or 120.7gr. Out of ten I weighed, only two were actually 121 or more (that one was 121.2gr. This has been my experience as well. -Chet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 Super accurate and will probably be switching when I get home. I use the 115gr. CMJ's now. As for the .3-.4 reduction in weight, if you're runnin' that close to PF then well...probably deserve to make minor. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm iprod Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 As for the .3-.4 reduction in weight, if you're runnin' that close to PF then well...probably deserve to make minor Agreed BUT Never struck them going under weight in either Zero or MG when I have used the 121gr. But I have not had 121gr MG for a long time as I switched to 125gr Zero bacause my gun had a specific prefference for them. My understanding is that even if you are well over major, if (in IPSC Open Class) your projectile is less than 121.0grains, ie 120.99999 or less, then you are minor in any event. If you specifically require 121gr or more then I suggest you contact MG and ask why they are less than advertised. I understand some tolerance is allowed in manufacturing but I suspect IPSC is not that benevolent. Does USPSA still allow 115gr at major??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 Yes, in IPSC you are correct. In the US we don't have that weight requirement. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 As for the .3-.4 reduction in weight, if you're runnin' that close to PF then well...probably deserve to make minor Agreed BUT Never struck them going under weight in either Zero or MG when I have used the 121gr. But I have not had 121gr MG for a long time as I switched to 125gr Zero bacause my gun had a specific prefference for them. My understanding is that even if you are well over major, if (in IPSC Open Class) your projectile is less than 121.0grains, ie 120.99999 or less, then you are minor in any event. If you specifically require 121gr or more then I suggest you contact MG and ask why they are less than advertised. I understand some tolerance is allowed in manufacturing but I suspect IPSC is not that benevolent. Does USPSA still allow 115gr at major??? I just re-checked the rules and for IPSC Open Major, it says minimum bullet weight is 120gr. I think that's probably why the planned on 121gr...to give a little error factor. I didn't weigh any that were less than 120.6 that I recall....most were right at 120.6 or 120.7gr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansy Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 (edited) Tried them last winter, they seem to be on the light side of the advertised 121gr, while the 124 jhp sem to be on the heavier side of it.....they were accurate but I couldn't find a reason to switch from the 124 jhp (MG) which are very very accurate at longer distances. Also didn't like the lead exposure on the tip.... Edited October 27, 2007 by dansy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm iprod Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 I new about the difference between IPSC and USPSA, forgot about it being 120grain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansy Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Actually if you shoot Open in IPSC within Canada you can still shoot 112 gr bullets versus the 120gr......we have rules exemptions for the guy's that shoot in both Canada and the State, so they don't have to constantly change there load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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