Carlos Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Here is a LINK TO NY TIMES article on luggage theft at airports. Has not happened to me (yet). But, friends have lost guns that were properly checked in baggage that was stolen in transit. Newspaper accounts like this one really make me think twice about travelling with my guns by air. Does it seem to anyone else like the airline industry is really going down the tubes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgary Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 "going" down the tubes? It's already halfway to the sewer.... B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 main reason i have to blow off the multigun nats in tulsa. sad, but since i'm in kali, can't replace 2 of them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2ipsc Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 It's already halfway to the sewer.... And more than a little alarming that SeaTac made the top of the name 'n' shame list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 Does it seem to anyone else like the airline industry is really going down the tubes? Not only has the airline industry hit rock bottom, they have started to dig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchwrench Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 When the hole gets big enough they'll put a hotel on it and call it The Auger Inn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierman Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 My folks flew to Miami last month. My dad's bag was misplaced for a few days. When they finally did get it back, his bottle of Vicodin (knee replacement surgery) had grown legs and walked off. His blood pressure meds were still there, just the painkillers taken. Not a happy day for my dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 I'm about to put my best two wheel guns in a suitcase to go to Tulsa. I don't want to be reading this thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopalong Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 Nemo, I'll have a spare 25-2 just in case...........won't have a 4 1/2 lbs trigger though................a really stiff 5 1/2 will have to do !!!!! Hop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scirocco38s Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 I have friends that work at the local airport in the police dept. there and they have told all of the shooters that they are taking a chance everytime they travel through with guns. It doesnt matter which airlines either. The local police cant investigate as it is a TSA problem and jurisdiction, and we all know how effective the great masterminds at TSA are. I travel quite often and have made it my practice to carry on everyting I need for a stay of 2 weeks. I am allowed 2 carry ons and I can get everything in the 2 bags with 1 of those being my laptop bag. If I need something I purchase it and if I cant fit it in to bring it back I throw it away. This inclueds toiletries underwear and socks if needed. I just charge my company for it and they would rather reimburse than have to wait for my bags to get returned and loose the productivity. So far the guys who have been doing this havent gotten rediculous with the expenses and the VP of accounting used to be a feild guy so he is sympathetic to our plight. The only way it will stop is if the customers of the airlines start making the airlines responsible. Right now if the match is within 12 hours drive we drive rather than fly as we dont loose our stuff. We also carry other shooters equipment that are on tighter schedules if we have the room(and we usually do). From Raleigh NC, we drive to Frostproof, Tulsa,, Barry , and points north such as Michigan or the Boston area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwt Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 I won't fly at all and would not fly with Guns on a bet !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoShooter Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 1,950 miles one way to Montana nationals 1,400 miles one way to Steel Challenge All my guns home in the safe after the events worth every mile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Keen Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 I've flown to the FLA OPEN match with a gun in the past ..... no problemo here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipscbob Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 You are NOT alone. I will be driving 13 hours to Area2 so that I dont have to trust my guns to the airlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 I trust my Open guns to airlines all the time. Only once did they ship a box of Glocks (and ammo) to Tokyo.... I had them delayed a time or two, luckily so far only on the return trips, and nothing's gone missing yet (other people aren't so lucky...) I do take precautions-- use a very tough locked inner case (the Secure Firearms Products cases rock) which is itself firmly locked to the outer bag. Make the outer bag look distinctive and as little like a 'gun' bag as possible. Hello Kitty if you can stand it . Tie-wrap all the zippers with colored zip-ties so you know instantly if somebody's been in there. Get to the gate early enough to sit and watch them loading the bags if you possibly can. Don't dawdle on the way to the baggage carousel to pick them up. If I could figure out a locator beacon, I'd do that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 If I could figure out a locator beacon, I'd do that too. Already figured out: Garmin Astro for $599 @ Cabelas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 If I could figure out a locator beacon, I'd do that too. Already figured out: Garmin Astro for $599 @ Cabelas Kewl. Sucks it uses GPS though.. that don't work so well in the bowels of the airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 When you think about this stuff, ask yourself why your tax dollars are subsidizing this kind of crap, too.... :roll: If you get to your destination and find that you bag is missing, let the luggage person from your airline know that you are leaving their desk to go call the FBI and let them know there is a gun loose in the sterile zone of their airport, and every airport you passed through. A friend has done this twice, now, and magically, his bag was located shortly after making the threat.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Med Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 When you think about this stuff, ask yourself why your tax dollars are subsidizing this kind of crap, too.... :roll:If you get to your destination and find that you bag is missing, let the luggage person from your airline know that you are leaving their desk to go call the FBI and let them know there is a gun loose in the sterile zone of their airport, and every airport you passed through. A friend has done this twice, now, and magically, his bag was located shortly after making the threat.... I like it :-) Angel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 When you think about this stuff, ask yourself why your tax dollars are subsidizing this kind of crap, too.... :roll:If you get to your destination and find that you bag is missing, let the luggage person from your airline know that you are leaving their desk to go call the FBI and let them know there is a gun loose in the sterile zone of their airport, and every airport you passed through. A friend has done this twice, now, and magically, his bag was located shortly after making the threat.... Brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted September 5, 2007 Author Share Posted September 5, 2007 When you think about this stuff, ask yourself why your tax dollars are subsidizing this kind of crap, too.... :roll:If you get to your destination and find that you bag is missing, let the luggage person from your airline know that you are leaving their desk to go call the FBI and let them know there is a gun loose in the sterile zone of their airport, and every airport you passed through. A friend has done this twice, now, and magically, his bag was located shortly after making the threat.... I like it too. Best part is: it is not an idle threat and your call CAN be made in good faith, since the that bag with the gun in it is not in your hands, nor in the airlines' hands, nor in TSA's hands. When a gun goes missing, its always serious. When it disappears while passing through secure areas of an airport, you SHOULD raise holy heck until its found. Wish they treated every theft as seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Keen Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 I will remember this for future trips! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 Thank Matt Burkett for that little gem Somehow the fear of multiple airport shutdowns seems to pop things loose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 That's the best solution I've ever heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffl Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 I had a firearm show up missing while shipping NDA with UPS. I finally got to the person at the hub and informed them that they had better find the firearm or ask questions of the ATF (I am a licensed dealer) how one of their employees stole the firearm. She informed me that their employees did't steal the firearm. So I asked if they let anyone off the street enter the Hub in question. She said NO. So then one of the employees stole it. She finally saw the light how it was not going to be plesant to talk to the ATF and ended up finding the firearm. NOT AN IDLE THREAT. THEFT OF FIREARMS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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