JaredB Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidball Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Wow. I think this might qualify as "bubblegum" in the view of some. I kinda like it. Yes, I like it very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viggen Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 And what part is the target part? Is all white considered No-Shoot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Keen Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 YES, white is the standard color for penalty targets. Brown would be a scored target requiring two hits, and of course the 5 steel plates are scored as "A" hits. Looks very devious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Nice TEXAS Star........ with the Oregon addition perhaps...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maineshootah Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Nice TEXAS Star........ with the Oregon addition perhaps...... Sweet.... When can I get one shipped up to Maine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Jerry is a sick man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 I want one! (or two... ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFD Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Good target for a side match or county fair. Next I expect to see ducks on a conveyor belt that need to be knocked down with a stuffed bear going to the stage winner. Obviously it's a bit too carnival for my taste and I don't think too much of white painted steel that needs to be shot backed by white no-shoots. On the practical side, what happens when the falling plates destroy the paper targets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 or the splater... The paper will be shredded, but it does look, um, interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Made me dizzy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open17 Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 (edited) Nice TEXAS Star........ with the Oregon addition perhaps...... YUP---It's a TEXAS star. Straight from Terry and Linda Ashton in San Angelo TEXAS. A couple of REALLY nice people, and a pleasure to do business with. The Oregon part isn't original either, there is a video of a similar 6 plate star that's been around for a month or so. The Oregon part took about $70 in parts, the better part of an afternoon, and some moderately creative cussin'. If anybody is serious about modifying an existing TEXAS star, PM or Email me for a parts list etc. Bill Marrs aka "Evil Bill" TY46179 Dundee Practical Shooters, home of the "Crazy Croc match" or the splater... The paper will be shredded, but it does look, um, interesting. What isn't obvious from the video it that there is about 16 inches of space between the plates and paper. (hopefully) plenty of room for the plates to fall without hitting paper. For the same reason, splatter shouldn't be a problem. Might get some from edge hits. Guess we will find out soon, It's set up and ready to go for today's match. Edited April 28, 2007 by open17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddy_fuentes Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Hope I never see one as long as I live. I get confused with stationary targets! I do have to admit that I do like the Texas Star. Buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Does anyone else still here Iron Butterfly in their heads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toowide Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 EVIL. Fun looking but EVIL. I hope none of the guys at Double Tap see this. Good thing you can only use so many hits on a no shoot for penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 I think this might qualify as "bubblegum" in the view of some. This would make an nice standards course. Starting with hands on top of your head, pistol laying flat on table, unloaded, under a piece of Juicy Fruit gum. On the signal, unwrap the gum and put it in your mouth. Load the pistol and shoot the plates weak hand only. Perform a mandatory reload, spit the gum into the spitton located under the table, then engage the paper targets with two rounds each strong hand only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Shot this today at a match. Yes Bill is a Sadist. Had some problems with splatter and with the plates hitting the targets. Bill's gonna make some changes that should alleviate both problems. Other than that it worked great. No problems at all. I didn't hear too much grumbling about it, surprisingly. Definitely makes you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruger Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Somewhere, I remember hearing something about being sure of your target and what is behind it. This looks like a great test of this skill in a dynamic environment. Admittedly, it happens on a predictable cycle, but it looks like a great intermediate step. Mind you, I think that something like this should be used sparingly. Respectfully, Mark Kruger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 The target company that was at the Open Nats had something just like this on display... Frankly, I think this concept is taking it just a hair too far... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJPoLo Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 This would make an nice standards course. Starting with hands on top of your head, pistol laying flat on table, unloaded, under a piece of Juicy Fruit gum. On the signal, unwrap the gum and put it in your mouth. Load the pistol and shoot the plates weak hand only. Perform a mandatory reload, spit the gum into the spitton located under the table, then engage the paper targets with two rounds each strong hand only. That's a Cowboy Action stage! -Chet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryDGeek Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 Yessss, my pretty ....... ! The Evil Oregon Star is indeed the child of Evil Bill Marrs and The Evil Star (which I've linked to ... somewhere.) We shot Version 1.0 this weekend, and there were some problems with splatter and Plates striking the too-near cardboard targets. I talked to Bill during the match, or rather he talked to me, and he has some fixes already in mind for Version 2.0. First is to move the cardboard-target back another foot, second is to remove the angle-iron splatter-shields (so-called by me) with flat plates made of mild steel. In fact, he'll plate over the entire double-rod support armto make bullets bounce back instead of splattering. I'm sure there will be a Version 3.0, or at least a Version 2.1 in the future. This is a "Work In Progress", and we all know that development of a new system is bound to involve some problems which need to be worked out. Do any of us besides me remember the problems with using the .38 Super in IPSC? The good news is, there is almost no probability of experiencing "Thirty-Eight Superface" during the development of this target. The Texas Star is almost universally accepted as a legitimate target, at least in the lower levels (I and II) of competition. Rumor has it that it has been included in at least one Level III competitive venue. I have no investment in the promotion of this target design, except that I have shot the stage presented April 28 at Dundee, Oregon, and I saw no insurmountable problems with it. The folks who use the word "bubblegum" in relation to this target are wearing blinders. I understand that the phrase originated with Ron Avery, but I have no idea why it was used or why it applies to this target. This target adds a new dimension to IPSC/USPSA competition, in that it requires the competitor to engage small, moving targets agains a confusing background. I challenge those who would demean it to provide a reason why it should be denigrated as "bubblegum", which I assume implies a meaningless, inapplicable challenge. Since when has IPSC competitiion rejected a shooting challenge as being too difficult? As far as I can see (lacking a clarification of the "bubblegum" canard), the only reason to reject is is that the target array is too confusing. Does anyone have a better reason to reject it? After all, the last time IPSC competition rejected a target was the "Hanging Ninja" issue, which applied correctly to the "Classic" target, but included not exception to the non-assymetric "Metric" target. You think that was well considered? ... Neither do I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 Both sides can be made for the creation of destruction of the newest target widgets and their validity in USPSA...but this really is not the setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 Did you have any issues with newer shooters gain a LOT of penalties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 First is to move the cardboard-target back another foot, second is to remove the angle-iron splatter-shields (so-called by me) with flat plates made of mild steel. In fact, he'll plate over the entire double-rod support armto make bullets bounce back instead of splattering. Flat mild steel might be a bad choice for bullet impact areas. It craters up fast and then the craters become really good uprange-splatter-reflectors. Bounce-back is not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 We shot the counter rotating Double Texas Stars again this weekend at the Double Tap Ranch but with 5 plates instead of 4 for each star. After letting it kick my butt at the championship in March I got even with it and hosed it!!! The first time I saw the counter rotating plates, I kept watching the plates wrong and missed abunch of shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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