Mayonaise Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 It's interesting to note that the winners in SSP, CDP, ESP and ESR are all top USPSA shooters as well. No flame wars please. I'm not making any conclusions or bashing anything - it's just an observation. Nice troll Cy. I always find it amusing how people who don't shoot IDPA like to interject themselves into IDPA threads. Slow TV night, I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHolsted Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 What a great time. This was my 3rd IDPA Nats and they seem to just get better and better. It was great to see old friends and make new ones. As a SO I did not get a chance to spend a great deal of time talking with everyone but I did get to see some great shooters as they came through our bay. I do wish the weather would have been a little better for the shooters on Friday and Saturday though. Congrats to all of the winners and I hope to see you all again next year in Allentown PA. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Wonder Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 It's interesting to note that the winners in SSP, CDP, ESP and ESR are all top USPSA shooters as well. No flame wars please. I'm not making any conclusions or bashing anything - it's just an observation. Dave Sevigny was an IDPA shooter and Champion long before he started shooting USPSA matches. Bob Vogel (2nd overall at the IDPA Nationals) is also a long time IDPA shooter. In looking at the scores, neither Taran Butler (shooting a 1911) or anyone else for that matter, came close to Dave or Bob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 It's interesting to note that the winners in SSP, CDP, ESP and ESR are all top USPSA shooters as well. No flame wars please. I'm not making any conclusions or bashing anything - it's just an observation. Dave Sevigny was an IDPA shooter and Champion long before he started shooting USPSA matches. Bob Vogel (2nd overall at the IDPA Nationals) is also a long time IDPA shooter. In looking at the scores, neither Taran Butler (shooting a 1911) or anyone else for that matter, came close to Dave or Bob. What are you trying to incinuate here? Awesome match folks i shot worse than i ever have in my life and still did really well considering. but the match was a good solid skill test with proven stages.. Thanks all that worked and it was wonderful meeting everyone from the forums! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 It's interesting to note that the winners in SSP, CDP, ESP and ESR are all top USPSA shooters as well. No flame wars please. I'm not making any conclusions or bashing anything - it's just an observation. Dave Sevigny was an IDPA shooter and Champion long before he started shooting USPSA matches. Bob Vogel (2nd overall at the IDPA Nationals) is also a long time IDPA shooter. In looking at the scores, neither Taran Butler (shooting a 1911) or anyone else for that matter, came close to Dave or Bob. From Dave's website: "Bursting onto the practical shooting circuit at IDPA matches in 1999, experienced shooters were quick to notice this newcomer had the talent to win major championships. Within his second season of IDPA, Dave won his first national title. Hungry to win more in 2000, he crossed over into IPSC shooting and at his first USPSA Nationals, won the Production title in 2001. In 2002, his first IPSC World Shoot, Dave proved once again he has the skills to win by becoming World Champion." Is 1999 to 2000 "long before"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck D Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Not for nothing but Dave did come from an IDPA background and not all USPSA members dominate IDPA matches. In reality, it shouldn't make a bit of difference where a shooter "comes from" or calls his "competitive home." But the following statement: "It's interesting to note that the winners in SSP, CDP, ESP and ESR are all top USPSA shooters as well." can easily be taken in the wrong context regardless of the disclaimer offered up at the end of the sentence. Forget about where their from or where they spend their time...Dave Sevigny is the "real deal" and it was another stellar performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Knight Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 (edited) IMHO trigger time is trigger time, regardless of discipline. IDPA, IPSC, all have there roots in putting bullets into the targets. That and it is just plain fun, isn't that why we all do this hard and incredibly expensive sport?? I congradulate all the winners and anyone that just showed up. I don't have these opportunities right now. Edited September 25, 2006 by theknightoflight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty whiteboy Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 I believe Dave S started his shooting career with GSSF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 1) 1 (MA) Curt Nichols 287.75 2) 2 (MA) Craig Buckland 308.35 3) 3 (MA) Brent Stone 328.81 4) 1 (EX) Ron Witte 342.32 5) 2 (EX) Ron Bodle 346.05 Wow. This time last year Craig, who posts here under the name of Bones, was an expert. A year later he finished second overall. Very impressive. Craig has worked real hard and it shows. Congrats to all. Gary Excellent, and congratulations Bones! Time to switch over and give those B-class USPSA Revolver shooters a run for their money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Suber Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 I have a question - Were there any DQs at the match? I am curious because a friend was supposed to be there, was listed in the interim results, and then was not listed in the finals. Just trying to figure out what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 IMHO trigger time is trigger time, regardless of discipline. +1... Some of you guys need to grow some thicker skin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chp5 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 (edited) It's interesting to note that the winners in SSP, CDP, ESP and ESR are all top USPSA shooters as well. No flame wars please. I'm not making any conclusions or bashing anything - it's just an observation. Nice troll Cy. I always find it amusing how people who don't shoot IDPA like to interject themselves into IDPA threads. Slow TV night, I know. You guys need to read my post and settle down! It's a valid pont and what I take away from the observation are two things: 1. There's probably less difference between the games than many believe, and 2. The cream rises to the top, no matter what. YMMV P.S. Mark - switch to decaff man - really! Edited September 25, 2006 by chp5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 The scoring software usually does not remove a name by itself. It lists DQ's and INC (incomplete) shooters on the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayonaise Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 P.S. Mark - switch to decaff man - really! Decaf is for pussies. At least I stay in my own lane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Suber Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 thanks. Just found out my friend had something come up family-wise and could not go. The scoring software usually does not remove a name by itself. It lists DQ's and INC (incomplete) shooters on the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTDR Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 IMHO trigger time is trigger time, regardless of discipline. IDPA, IPSC, all have there roots in putting bullets into the targets. That and it is just plain fun, isn't that why we all do this hard and incredibly expensive sport?? I congradulate all the winners and anyone that just showed up. I don't have these opportunities right now. he/she who pulls the trigger is my friend, i don't care if it is sass your alright in my book, wanna shoot clays go ahead, wanna shoot bench-rest great, what ever gets you to the range, u.s.p.s.a./i.d.p.a. bashing each other kills me as if we do not have enough of a fight with gun control, we have to fight among ourselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty whiteboy Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 he/she who pulls the trigger is my friend, i don't care if it is sass your alright in my book, wanna shoot clays go ahead, wanna shoot bench-rest great, what ever gets you to the range, u.s.p.s.a./i.d.p.a. bashing each other kills me as if we do not have enough of a fight with gun control, we have to fight among ourselves I agree! It's not what game you shoot, it's THAT you shoot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99gski Posted September 25, 2006 Author Share Posted September 25, 2006 +1 I know why I cross over... shooting is shooting. Being able to learn from both sports has been a big contributor to my success. There are things that I would like to see change about both, but many of the top USPSA shooters cross over because they are hungry to prove yet another time they are the best in their divisions. That said, back to the nationals: I just got home to see my trophies (missed the award ceremony on Sunday morning). They are beautiful! From the high quality, embroidered i-SHOT bags with lots of literature, to the dinners and get-togethers, the IDPA Nationals certainly is an event for the shooters. For a relatively small entry fee for a nationals you get a lot... first to shoot for a national title, a free lunch (just remember your badge! ), all the drinks you could want/need at the range at no cost, awards ceremony... Quite a deal. The one thing you can't bank on... the weather! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberneck Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 The one thing you can't bank on... the weather! Luckily September in Pa. is quite nice. I am already looking forward to next years nationals. It also helps that it will only be 90 minutes from home for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Knight Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 The one thing you can't bank on... the weather! There are a few videos of you shooting in the rain aren't there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driver8M3 Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Luckily September in Pa. is quite nice. I am already looking forward to next years nationals. It also helps that it will only be 90 minutes from home for me.where in PA is next years match??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberneck Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Luckily September in Pa. is quite nice. I am already looking forward to next years nationals. It also helps that it will only be 90 minutes from home for me.where in PA is next years match??? Guthsville, which is 15 minutes northwest of Allentown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmist10 Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Excellent, and congratulations Bones! Time to switch over and give those B-class USPSA Revolver shooters a run for their money! Now THAT'S trolling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmcphersn Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 +1I know why I cross over... shooting is shooting. Being able to learn from both sports has been a big contributor to my success. There are things that I would like to see change about both, but many of the top USPSA shooters cross over because they are hungry to prove yet another time they are the best in their divisions. Amen Julie! I have the privilege of shooting with some of the best in both camps. Ron Witte and Gerald Thompson came in 4th overall in SSR and ESR respectively and shoot at my local IDPA club. Jeff Cramblit (benelli2) came in 16th in standard at the European Shotgun Championships a couple weeks ago and is RM for the Ft Benning 3 Gun this year. I got to hammer a few nails at his house this weekend and shoot some steel. Good people all around. It's all shooting and it's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gb32 Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 I thought it was a good match. I do think the Carolina Cup is better but I am biased b/c I shoot at that club all the time. I shot on Thursday which I think turned out to be an advantage. I really screwed up some stages but had it together on others. My goal was top 5 in SSP but considering how I felt about my day, 8th was a pleasant surprise. I did win a stage which was a complete surprise. I did squad with Taran Butler which was a learning experience. To say that he is smooth and fast is an understatement. All in all, a good match that I'm glad I went to. Thanks to all who worked. This was only the 2nd major IDPA match in 4 years that I havent worked so it was funny for all the people I knew asking me what stage I was on. Congrats to all who won, placed or showed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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