mreed911 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Picked this up as part of a three gun deal tonight - I collect these generation S&W guns. Came across this 3566 frame completed by Briley as a .40 open gun, a 9mm Target Champion and a Lew Horton Shorty Forty Five. Going to go by Briley and see how much more I can find out about this one - already have an email thread with them. This one has the Briley barrel. Anyone know what a 90's-correct optic would be for this mount? Something suitable today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) In early '90s people were still using tubular dot sights. Tasco, Aimpoint Comp? Then C-More started coming along with the open lense arrangement. The mount on the S&W looks as if a C-More Slide Ride might go on it? Edited January 31 by perttime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreed911 Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 Yeah, definitely going to have to see what fits it. Appreciate the pointer to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 If it's got two tapped holes along the center top a couple inches apart as seen below, a full size C-more is appropriate. I had one just like it on my Briley 9x25 Dillon open gun (somewhere I have a copy of the 93-94 era Briley catalog it was the cover gun for). Just a dovetail would be anything from a Tasco PDP2 or Aimpoint Comp to something like an original Bushnell Holosight. Note that the three cap screw mounting was not the best for longevity and many are loose or cracked if they were used hard with heavy scopes. Here's the C-more mount off my old 9x25 showing the bolt holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreed911 Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 It does not. Looks like it’s for the tube style optics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Mitch Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 This is awesome. Wonder if the Tasco PDP3BD is era correct. I have an old silver-colored one from an old open gun in my gun parts stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braxton1 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) Yeah, a PDP3 would be pretty "era-correct" for 91/92. Anything much past that is going to be (for a very short while) Aimpoint Comp, then full-on C-More Serendipity. Back to the original post: Congrats!! Those S&W's had some of the best triggers this sport has ever seen. The reset is simply amazing!! The only one that I still own is a 745. I still enjoy it, despite it being relegated to "expensive plinker".... Edited January 31 by Braxton1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreed911 Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 I'm hoping it's not the C-More Railway, but that might be close to it. Will do some more digging later. The PDP would be era correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 If you like old S&W IPSC guns, check these out from Richard Wilson in UK, these models were used by the UK Team in 1993. Though they may have had different scopes back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 The early days of a sport before things get hashed out are always the most interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreed911 Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 Wow, those are classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Seems unlikely to be a C-more railway since those are just Slide Rides with a dovetail adapter bolted to the bottom (pretty sure I've got some of those around here too). Best bet might be to carefully look at the mount and see where the rings were mounted and if there were one or two. ADCO is another possible scope, but it would be rings like a Tasco more than likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powder Finger Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I think early 90’s we’re most likely pdp2 Tasso 93 might be the 3 then the coke can 4’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 2 hours ago, shred said: Seems unlikely to be a C-more railway since those are just Slide Rides with a dovetail adapter bolted to the bottom (pretty sure I've got some of those around here too). Yeep, looks like they did do that at least once. When you find the age of the pistol, the Front Sight archive on USPSA will be chock full of scope ads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreed911 Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 Looks like exactly the same rail - and the C-More would be a nice fit. I actually found a great deal on the grey Holosun 510C, so I may mix a little new and a little old and give it a run before it goes to the safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim O'Young Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 "Hell, I was there"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeti Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) Wow. Good to see some of these out in the wild again. I vote Slide Ride. Congrats on the score! Edited February 1 by Yeti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreed911 Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 These are great! And some massive optics. On another note, if anyone has one of the S&W magwells for these sitting around extra, I'm looking for one. I also acquired a 9mm Target Champion but it came without the magwell and they're functionally unobtanium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
392heminut Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Great looking Smith! I love the older guns, they are a map of how our sport has evolved. They may not be competitive now, but they are still fun to shoot! I'm probably dating myself here, but I was active in USPSA back when these guns were competitive. Back when I started, the top shooters were shooting single stack 45's with a single port comp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) ... and then somebody figured that you can make Major with a single stack 1911, in .38 Super, with a port or two in the comp. The S&W pistols may have been the first "high capacity" IPSC/USPSA Open guns. Edited February 1 by perttime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreed911 Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 6 minutes ago, perttime said: .The S&W pistols may have been the first "high capacity" IPSC/USPSA Open guns. Among the first, for sure. Released in .356 TSW which then found itself below the "40 caliber" threshold for Major. Funny enough, 9mm bullets can now make Major in both Limited and Open. In Limited, by being loaded in a .357 SIG case (but not .356 TSW, even if it were still available), and in Open by meeting power factor requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1911 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Really cool piece of history. 3rd gen Smiths are still awesome handguns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 49 minutes ago, perttime said: The S&W pistols may have been the first "high capacity" IPSC/USPSA Open guns. There were shooters in Europe running Tanfoglio and CZ with Major 9mm before the S&W guns. The Springfield P9 was basically a Tanfoglio. They had problems with the frames being strong enough to support the scope mounts and the barrel pins would frequently break due to the stresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Before that there were Browning Hi Powers and Glocks and such too, but few bothered. The P9's in 9x21 were very briefly the hotness late 80's through about 1990 before Para & STI ran them over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc68cal Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Love seeing these older open guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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