Issues with Tanfoglio Gold Match Xtreme

[wasa]

Hello everyone,

 

I have a few issues with my Tanfoglio Gold Match Xtreme SA only.

 

1. My trigger pull weight has suddenly decreased massively from around 1.3kg to 500-600g

I want my higher trigger pull weight back :D

 

2. If I let my slide move forward (with slide lock or racking it) the hammer falls down.

 

I have to say that this is my first gun. I clean it after every ~500 rounds.

I didn't change any parts yet and I may have fired around 5k rounds with it.

I have no clue what may be the issue with it.

 

I apologize for my english or if my explanation isn't on point, English isn't my first language.

[himurax13]

It sounds like the hammer hooks on your hammer are worn down. I suggest replacing it with a better one.

[wasa]

First suggestion I received by DM was changing the sear spring, tested two different ones, same issues. Still very low trigger pull weight and hammer still coming down when closing the slide.

 

Will order new hammer next, thank you for the suggestion!

[Polymer]

Check hammer hooks and sear where it contacts hammer hooks. Both should have defined edge and not rounded/worn.

[wasa]

I can't judge it really. Honestly, I'm not experienced enough to judge it. I'd say it's worn.
I do have the photos in a better quality but 500kb is the limit. Hopefully you can see the important parts otherwise I can upload the photos somewhere and post the links here (if that is allowed)

[Redhemi]

Did you buy it new or used?

[MuayThaiJJ]

The sear and/or the hammer hooks may be damaged. Remove them and take pics for us so we can inspect.

[Zachjet]

Following this topic to get some knowledge  

[Joe4d]

Alot of guns have parts that are only surfaced hardened. If someone tried to do a trigger job on factory parts, they polished off the hardening, and end up with exactly what you have. Good trigger for a while, that wears off and you get hammer follow. 
I would look for aftermarket hammer and sear, or new factory if thats all you can get. 
I would change both hammer and sear. 
Another thought, in one of your pics it looks like the sear isnt fully in position.. Positive its put together correctly ? also is the trigger going fully forward ? 
Have you made any adjustments to the gun ?

[wasa]

- bought it used
 

- only factory parts have been used here (Tanfoglio Xtreme)

- sear is in position, trigger is going fully forward

- I haven't made any adjustments to the gun except I replaced the trigger and sear springs with original Tanfoglio springs few days ago because someone suggested it (didn't cause any more issues, everything stayed the same)
Since I live in Europe I can order directly from Italy.

I tend to replace the sear, hammer and trigger with Tanfoglio Unica parts, they offer a full kit.

Photos here: https://imgur.com/a/ryil2cV

 

Thanks a lot for all the help, much appreciated!

Edited May 29, 2023 by wasa
added information

[zombywoof]

Sear looks worn

[Redhemi]

Looking at the pics I'd say the previous owner has done some work to it. Both the sear and hammer look worn and should be replaced. You might also want to get a new hammer spring also seeing how you'll have it apart. Do yourself a favor and get another sear spring as a backup because if it flys off somewhere you'll probably never find it. Good luck and I hope this solves your problem.

[wasa]

Thanks for the feedback.
I'm looking to simply replace everything. Don't want to replace single parts with other parts may need replacement sooner or later.
Better safe than sorry...

[DBX1987]

Replace the sear it looks worn, I've got a worn in sear with a Unica hammer and it still fires perfectly but you might be out of luck. Unica hammer hooks are way smaller.

 

Other issues might be sear reset. Check that they triggerbar can move downwards to reset when racking the slide.

 

FPB Will needs some adjustment with Unica Parts since the timing is slightly different compared to delta/titan hammer.(different geometry)

 

 

 

[BritinUSA]

I suggest replacing all the roll pins as well. The roll-pins can get worn down if replaced frequently and then any parts can work loose.

[Ludde]

Just a possible thing to check for.

 

Someone has set the trigger overtravel set screw too tight, forcing the sear and hammer hooks to rub while disengaging. If this is going on for a while the surface hardening can be worn through causing the top edge of the hammer hooks to round of (or sear lower edge) this can show itself as hammerfollow.

 

 

[jubi351]

Agreed, sear is badly worn.

[Ludde]

On 5/29/2023 at 1:48 PM, wasa said:

- bought it used
 

- only factory parts have been used here (Tanfoglio Xtreme)

- sear is in position, trigger is going fully forward

- I haven't made any adjustments to the gun except I replaced the trigger and sear springs with original Tanfoglio springs few days ago because someone suggested it (didn't cause any more issues, everything stayed the same)
Since I live in Europe I can order directly from Italy.

I tend to replace the sear, hammer and trigger with Tanfoglio Unica parts, they offer a full kit.

Photos here: https://imgur.com/a/ryil2cV

 

Thanks a lot for all the help, much appreciated!

Hi,

 

Checked the pictures, the sear is clearly worn out.

[wasa]

Sorry for my late reply. Just before starting my vacation I received all the new parts and replaced everything

Trigger, trigger bar, sear, hammer, all the springs.

Went to the range, loaded one bullet per mag, hammer follow after releasing the slide so the bullet was shot.

 

Funny enough this doesn't happen with dummy rounds or empty chamber.

 

Have to polish something off the sear so my safety works properly again (it kind of hits the sear and not going below it)

Don't know if this may cause the issue with the hammer still following.

 

Been reading about the screw in my trigger that adjusts the post travel after I've fired a shot (no idea what the correct name is). Anyway, a hammer follow may be possible if this screw is not in the correct position.

Is it possible that this is a reason for a hammer follow when racking the gun?

[shred]

Overtravel screw.  Too tight and bad things can happen.  Back if off a couple turns to be sure that's not part of it.

 

[wasa]

I was finally able to get to the range and adjusting the overtravel screw helped with the hammer not following but now the firing pin doesn't hit the bullet any more.

Thank god I have a sense of humour (and more guns) and can laugh about this

[wasa]

Quick update.

 

New firing pin solved the issue, my Tanfo is running properly again. Thank you so much for you help guys! Much appreciated