lroy Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Didn't realize my grip screws were loose. Grip was able to rock against frame. How screwed is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximis228 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 IMO, its toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 A talented tig welder and an average machinist could fix that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicktater_Pete Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Guess they'll have to start making them out of that Wakanda Vibranium I believe a good weld and blending job would repair it. Can't say it would last forever, but I'm not a metallurgical guy or in a machine shop. Weld shouldn't be significantly costly either. You might ask the people who made it for their opinion. They'll have more experience with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lroy Posted March 29, 2023 Author Share Posted March 29, 2023 I did. For liability reasons they're obviously going to say it needs to be replaced, though. Costs 1k after fitting and coating. Not sure I know anyone that can weld, but they're just going to toss it out anyway. If it's a shoddy job would it end up damaging the grip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 I think I would have it tig welded then "machine" it myself with a Dremel and a couple of files, then "refinish" it with cold blue. Then I would tighten the grip screws and get to shooting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 13 hours ago, barry said: A talented tig welder and an average machinist could fix that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kema Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Laser welding and just file it to fit. Lasts until it breaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Try Jim Milks at Innovative Custom Guns. He can fix it I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnyglock Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 54 minutes ago, Bill H said: Try Jim Milks at Innovative Custom Guns. He can fix it I'm sure. Jim is a talented guy no doubt. I’d have this laser welded though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Any "good" tig welder could fix this. Laser welding too but not something your going to find outside of serious manufacturing. If you shot my matches and were someone that was helpful and I liked I'd fix it for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lroy Posted March 30, 2023 Author Share Posted March 30, 2023 I help out at all the clubs in the area, but I'm not sure anyone can weld haha. Appreciate all the advice. For those of you that have gone the welding route, how long would it typically last? I assume it's still somewhat of a weak point? 9 major is pretty rough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 I have found that it will last until it cracks. Sorry had to. In my experience it is usually good after repair but may crack somewhere else. I had a Caspian frame welded 3 times, different places Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lroy Posted April 2, 2023 Author Share Posted April 2, 2023 Is this considered a stress point? I've been looking around and can't seem to find any other frames that have cracked in this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 Aftermarket metal grip? Very tight grip screw bushings that might be applying sideways force when tightened? Usually most of the stress goes into the rail portion, not the bushing hole, but bad fits can exacerbate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lroy Posted April 5, 2023 Author Share Posted April 5, 2023 whats the torque on steel grip screws? I've been using 30 with red loctite. Am I making it worse? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltdmstr Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 If done correctly, a TiG weld repair will be stronger than the base metal. So, I definitely wouldn't be considered a weak spot. And there should be zero cause for concern. But, again, that's assuming it's done correctly. Also, every 2011 frame I know of is made from bar stock. Which should be quite suitable for TiG welding. Cast frames like Caspian are a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 Had a Caspian hi cap that I shot for 10 years that cracked at dust cover that I had welded. Lasted several years and 10s of thousands of rounds. Scraped it out after second slide cracked and was tired of dealing with accu rails and having new slide machined. This game is hard on equipment. Investment cast steel welds just like bar stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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