Dchi Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 I've used a M&P CORE for about 6 years now and have done really well with it. I've won a lot of smaller matches with 40 or less shooters. But moving up to the bigger matches 60+ shooters I'm somewhere in the top 10. There's a bunch at the top using heavy weight guns. I think the extra weight of P320 tungsten frame and *thumb rest [generic]* would help me a lot. I'm trying to shave off 3+ seconds off my total match time. So maybe .5-1 sec off per stage. I don't know much about the 320's. Should I get and X5 Legion or DH3 or build it myself? Also, I don't like the trigger too much but I'm sure that can be improved. I want a heavy frame, lighter slide, and the lowest optic mount possible with a RMR cut and a magwell. Also, I would also get 3 140mm mags and one open mag to start with. Trying to stay under $1500 and used is ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Just buy a Max and be done. $1500-1600 and includes 4 mags and dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeilAndrew Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 All the better Sig shooters around me swear by the Gray Guns kit and a good polish, X5 legion, DPP footprint dot of choice. In terms of thumb rests, not many use any of the big ones. I've seen the Align tactical get some usage, and seen some mention of the Odin and Tevo rests. I, personally, use the Tevo rest and it's pretty great, but it pretty much only fits those with smaller hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwontanamo Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 31 minutes ago, echotango said: Just buy a Max and be done. $1500-1600 and includes 4 mags and dot. I got to shoot a friend of mine and it felt pretty good. Its not exactly a Grey gun trigger kit but its a close 2nd. you'll enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, Kwontanamo said: I got to shoot a friend of mine and it felt pretty good. Its not exactly a Grey gun trigger kit but its a close 2nd. you'll enjoy it. None of them come with a gray guns trigger. I put one in all of Max's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dchi Posted February 16, 2023 Author Share Posted February 16, 2023 I did not realize that the max uses a proprietary optic cut. I don't like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, Dchi said: I did not realize that the max uses a proprietary optic cut. I don't like that. You stated an RMR cut. That would also corner you into a choice of a few optics. A plate on a Legion would be your best choice then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick303 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 6 hours ago, Dchi said: lowest optic mount possible with a RMR cut For the RMR cut you are going to need a complete adapter plate or at a minimum a spacer plate (which would keep the optic very low) for just about every P320 slide. If you want a direct mount which would be the lowest you most likely would have to go aftermarket slide and have it milled. Many of the P320 slides, especially in the X5 line are cut to adopt a couple of different optics directly. The problem with that is, there will be gaps between the optic and where the slide is milled. The screws alone will not maintain the optic on the slide. For RMR footprint optics, many opt for spacer plates that remove the gaps between the optic and the milled edges of the optic cutout. I would not get to caught up on how high the optic is over the bore when using full blown adapter plates. Many people use them with zero issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrydoc Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) Go the MAX or the Legion (what changes are there in the DH version to make it any better than the others ?), if you want to make changes great platform to start at. NO magwells allowed in CO Edited February 18, 2023 by terrydoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilk73 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) Go shoot the sig fist. It’s going to feel different from your s&w because the slide rides a bit higher. s&w came out with a steal frame 5” comp gun. Also in your price range you can do better than that sig. People always follow the leader because the leader is doing something right. Or because someone threw enough money to make it look good. In this case it’s not the gun, sigs design is like taking a vw beetle and setting it up to drag race. Sure you can do it but it’s never going to be as good as something that’s design to physically give you all the best advantages. This of course is just my opinion. I just built an Arsenal strike one, having the slide milled for an sro, installed a steel guide rod with a 12 pound recoil spring and 2 pound 5 ounce trigger. There is a built in mag well so your still carry optics legal. Long grip for plenty of purchase and 5” barrel. Throw an x300 on there and you’re swinging 40 ounces around with what I think feels balanced for my medium sized hands. The trigger is probably one of the best polymer triggers on the market once upgraded and the bore is lower than a Glock. Mine shoots like a 22. If you’re interested pm me I’ll point you in all the right directions so you don’t have to do the hard work I already figured out. I’m going to eventually do a write up and post it in the others forum. Edited February 18, 2023 by Twilk73 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Have Grayguns build you a Lockwood Edition pistol. They will put whatever optic cut you want on there. I love mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireman1776 Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 10:28 AM, Dchi said: I've used a M&P CORE for about 6 years now and have done really well with it. I've won a lot of smaller matches with 40 or less shooters. But moving up to the bigger matches 60+ shooters I'm somewhere in the top 10. There's a bunch at the top using heavy weight guns. I think the extra weight of P320 tungsten frame and *thumb rest [generic]* would help me a lot. I'm trying to shave off 3+ seconds off my total match time. So maybe .5-1 sec off per stage. I don't know much about the 320's. Should I get and X5 Legion or DH3 or build it myself? Also, I don't like the trigger too much but I'm sure that can be improved. I want a heavy frame, lighter slide, and the lowest optic mount possible with a RMR cut and a magwell. Also, I would also get 3 140mm mags and one open mag to start with. Trying to stay under $1500 and used is ok. sent you a pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midatlantic Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 I tried the new S&w competitor and it’s has a better stock trigger than any 320 aftermarket trigger I’ve ever used. Lots of pretravel, but very crisp and clean break and reset. I presume pre travel can be adjusted out. Was shooting a friends gun at range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whan Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Before I switched to a Tanfo, I was running an AXG frame with the Brass Lok grips. I significantly preferred that grip shape over the TXG (had a TXG before). A few others at my club are also running the AXG. It is pricey to setup though (~$500 for just the grips). \ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X5SigChris Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 I went with the x5. The max wasn’t out yet. If I were to buy another CO gun, it would be the max. GG kit is nice and light. However, I picked up an sig package from a buddy and he had a mix of GG parts and some parts from Sussex gunworks. It’s a tad bit heavier by about a pound and change but the wall feels better. Granted, this is personal preference and in dry fire. DPP worked great for me but the package included a SRO which I plan on trying. I do have a Odin armory man-o-war thumb rest and love it. Big step up. All in all, I’m happy I went with a x5 and have no regrets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3guns Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 I would recommend going g with the Legion. It gives you the most flexibility to do whatever you want with the pistol. You can make upgrades as needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJM Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 A Lockwood slide or original X5 shoots much tighter groups at 25 yards compared to most Legions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy1k Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 I just bought a 320max have yet to use it in a match but after a few range trips and dry fire I’m starting to like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDotsOnly Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Anything that you can get your hands on and get out and train with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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