Racinready300ex Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, Jim Watson said: An old science fiction story was set on a very rationally governed planet had a constitutional requirement that any new law passed would have to specify the law that it was to repeal and replace. Bug would be the easy pick. But CDP is pretty weak too, so it's Revolver. If we had to kill a division any of those would be good choices. Really, most matches are basically CO matches these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 If I remember right, 1 of the things about IDPA in 1996 ( my number AO1668 ) was that comp's magwells red dots, and things of this nature right down to reload Ammunition Could be a terrible liability in court. The same probably wholes today.Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, Racinready300ex said: Bug would be the easy pick. But CDP is pretty weak too, so it's Revolver. If we had to kill a division any of those would be good choices. Really, most matches are basically CO matches these days. Main match BUG is a real dead end, I do not remember seeing anybody shooting it at a match in my theatre of operations. I HAVE shot a real BUG in an outlaw event and it was a chore. Next time, I shot a 4" revolver as allowed in the local rules. I am kind of sentimental about CDP and SSR, for one long spell I actually placed better in CDP than ESP and SSR is kind of fun; but agree they are low in interest and attendance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 23 minutes ago, usmc1974 said: If I remember right, 1 of the things about IDPA in 1996 ( my number AO1668 ) was that comp's magwells red dots, and things of this nature right down to reload Ammunition Could be a terrible liability in court. The same probably wholes today.Just a thought. I'm believing that's going to be fudd lore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 I do not recall any such discussions specifically involving IDPA. A-00177 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Chimpo Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 22 hours ago, RJH said: Well, Roland special was originally built buy a guy who been there and done that, so maybe not so stupid. So IDPA, an org based around "defensive" pistol use seems a perfect place for this. But whatever.... I don't give a rat's ass who came up with it. Logical fallacy: appeal to authority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Johnny_Chimpo said: I don't give a rat's ass who came up with it. Logical fallacy: appeal to authority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilk73 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Johnny_Chimpo said: I don't give a rat's ass who came up with it. Logical fallacy: appeal to authority You’re not going to agree with everything or everyone. But for a start get off your high horse, you’re kind of a jerk in every thread I see you in. Including one I stated where you assumed I wasn’t putting in the work. You posted your variation of the same phase that has been echoed for years about purchasing ammo rather than upgrading a weapon. My opinion is small comps can be practical on carry guns. Open gun sized comps aren’t practical. Allow comps in CO, and ESP but the gun must fit in the standard box. IDPA is still a game and the more fun it is the more attention it will grab. Imagine idpa being all the rage on Instagram rather than newbs posting their sub 1 second draws from 3 yards without aiming and thinking they’re special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted November 30, 2022 Author Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Johnny_Chimpo said: I don't give a rat's ass who came up with it. Logical fallacy: appeal to authority Please watch your language, I'd rather not have my thread close down. Edited November 30, 2022 by usmc1974 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilk73 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, RJH said: Johnny knows everything. He’s been around so long he actually taught god how to shoot. Heck I heard he was even a consultant on Tombstone and Young Guns 1 and 2! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Chimpo Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Twilk73 said: IDPA is still a game and the more fun it is the more attention it will grab. Imagine idpa being all the rage on Instagram Edited November 30, 2022 by Johnny_Chimpo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandflea316 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 I wouldn't mind seeing carry comp guns in IDPA. It's what I carry. Still should fit in the box though. Regardless it wouldn't bother me if I shot it in IDPA as a no score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 I really like this gun, if I could build it I would carry it. but I guess I don't know how to build it. Still it is very cool looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 On 11/30/2022 at 10:53 PM, usmc1974 said: I really like this gun, if I could build it I would carry it. but I guess I don't know how to build it. Still it is very cool looking. Looks like a slide, threaded barrel, comp, flashlight, magwell and trigger. Stipple job looks pretty good. It shouldn't be hard to do at all really, it is a glock. Stippling is the only part that would take any skill. Talon grips would be easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Racinready300ex said: Looks like a slide, threaded barrel, comp, flashlight, magwell and trigger. Stipple job looks pretty good. It shouldn't be hard to do at all really, it is a glock. Stippling is the only part that would take any skill. Talon grips would be easier. I don't believe that to Glock 19 slide, lines up with the Glock 17 locking blocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandflea316 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 26 minutes ago, usmc1974 said: I don't believe that to Glock 19 slide, lines up with the Glock 17 locking blocks. Looks like a gen 5 glock which uses the same locking lugs from the gen 3 & 4 glock 19. That looks like a gen 5.17 frame with gen 5.19 slide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 36 minutes ago, sandflea316 said: Looks like a gen 5 glock which uses the same locking lugs from the gen 3 & 4 glock 19. That looks like a gen 5.17 frame with gen 5.19 slide Isn't that just a g45? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandflea316 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 On 12/2/2022 at 6:24 PM, rowdyb said: Isn't that just a g45? If it was a g45 the frame rail would be flush with the 19 length slide. In the pic you can clearly see that the frame rail extends past the slide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Awesome thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v1911 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 I overheard a conversation between an IDPA member and someone from the Tiger Team years ago. So take it for what it’s worth. When asked about comps, they said they didn’t permit them because of the stage description required shots to be made from retention, depending on the comp/porting, it could blow hot gassed/debris into the shooter’s eyes. How true this comment is/was, is beyond me. It may have just been old guard mentality. But it stuck with me. I love the idea of porting a gun that I would carry but have always been concerned about the hot gasses and/or debris that may be blown up into my face if I had to shoot from retention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayonaise Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 On 11/28/2022 at 7:18 PM, usmc1974 said: Once they let Compensators in, IDPA will not remain. It will just become another form of, IPSC /USPSA We're already there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted December 14, 2022 Author Share Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Mayonaise said: We're already there. You are probably right. Because it does not even remotely resemble, anything that it did in 96 when I started shooting it. Edited December 14, 2022 by usmc1974 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GigG Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 On 11/29/2022 at 10:39 AM, usmc1974 said: The same probably wholes today.Just a thought. While reloaded ammo MIGHT be a issue in court. The others would not be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Carry comps were briefly popular in the early 1990s. They died out because of the risks (retention shooting, etc) outweighed the advantages (minimally faster follow-up shots). The IDPA founders knew about them back then. What that means for today is anyone's guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Well, they are coming back. If you haven't got a Roland Special you just aren't With It. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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