Johnnymazz Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 pipe works great, I used a short one. Black pipe was tight, galvanized fit perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCaryBrassGuy Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 17 hours ago, chgofirefighter said: I've been looking at purchasing the decapper from Rollsizer, however, I was told that it was not that reliable and it wasn't quite there yet as for as performance, etc. Great info! As a small commercial brass processor and authorized reseller the Rollsizer products, I would say that the statement above is accurate depending on what you are trying to process. Having bent / broke more pins / rods than I care to count from running the machine at or above its limitations, I have a few tips and tricks to share 1) It is very critical that you get the brass sorted properly BEFORE it goes into the decapper. Trying to get the .22LR off from the pin, and out of the .32 that is nested in a 9, that is nested in a 40, that is nested in a 45 is shall we say difficult. 2) It will run a bit better if it has already been dry tumbled in walnut or corn cob media. While you "CAN" run really dirty brass through it, that ends up getting on the linear guides for the push rod or the guide for the FW Arms Die 3) I can run fastest (As in full speed on the dial) on brass with large primers because they typically have large flash holes. Where I get in trouble is with that Norma brass crap on 9mm. This stuff will stick on the decapping pin every, single time and then jam up the whole machine. Usually looks like this - So to counter that I worked with a local machine shop in North Carolina to develop a modified wear plate that we use when we run 9mm - This is essentially a shell holder that works for 9mm only that is holding the case down so that when the norma brass gets stuck on the pin that it will have something holding it down as the machine is on its upstroke. Note - This design is not perfect, it causes a separate issue that we are still working on, but it helps significantly. 4) You will break pins constantly if you run the machine too hard, and if it starts to get bent but doesn't break, it will bend or warp the rod from FW Arms next. Thankfully you can order both pins and rods directly from FW arms without paying the international fees. Overall this product is really cool and has helped us automate / increase our processing significantly, but as another poster said, you cannot leave it unattended, and it does require a bit of TLC to keep it running optimally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chgofirefighter Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 11 hours ago, TheCaryBrassGuy said: As a small commercial brass processor and authorized reseller the Rollsizer products, I would say that the statement above is accurate depending on what you are trying to process. Having bent / broke more pins / rods than I care to count from running the machine at or above its limitations, I have a few tips and tricks to share 1) It is very critical that you get the brass sorted properly BEFORE it goes into the decapper. Trying to get the .22LR off from the pin, and out of the .32 that is nested in a 9, that is nested in a 40, that is nested in a 45 is shall we say difficult. 2) It will run a bit better if it has already been dry tumbled in walnut or corn cob media. While you "CAN" run really dirty brass through it, that ends up getting on the linear guides for the push rod or the guide for the FW Arms Die 3) I can run fastest (As in full speed on the dial) on brass with large primers because they typically have large flash holes. Where I get in trouble is with that Norma brass crap on 9mm. This stuff will stick on the decapping pin every, single time and then jam up the whole machine. Usually looks like this - So to counter that I worked with a local machine shop in North Carolina to develop a modified wear plate that we use when we run 9mm - This is essentially a shell holder that works for 9mm only that is holding the case down so that when the norma brass gets stuck on the pin that it will have something holding it down as the machine is on its upstroke. Note - This design is not perfect, it causes a separate issue that we are still working on, but it helps significantly. 4) You will break pins constantly if you run the machine too hard, and if it starts to get bent but doesn't break, it will bend or warp the rod from FW Arms next. Thankfully you can order both pins and rods directly from FW arms without paying the international fees. Overall this product is really cool and has helped us automate / increase our processing significantly, but as another poster said, you cannot leave it unattended, and it does require a bit of TLC to keep it running optimally. Nice info, thanks~ Would be interested to get that that wear plate as an added mod to the Decapper~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJBriggs Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 20 hours ago, TheCaryBrassGuy said: As a small commercial brass processor and authorized reseller the Rollsizer products, I would say that the statement above is accurate depending on what you are trying to process. Having bent / broke more pins / rods than I care to count from running the machine at or above its limitations, I have a few tips and tricks to share 1) It is very critical that you get the brass sorted properly BEFORE it goes into the decapper. Trying to get the .22LR off from the pin, and out of the .32 that is nested in a 9, that is nested in a 40, that is nested in a 45 is shall we say difficult. 2) It will run a bit better if it has already been dry tumbled in walnut or corn cob media. While you "CAN" run really dirty brass through it, that ends up getting on the linear guides for the push rod or the guide for the FW Arms Die 3) I can run fastest (As in full speed on the dial) on brass with large primers because they typically have large flash holes. Where I get in trouble is with that Norma brass crap on 9mm. This stuff will stick on the decapping pin every, single time and then jam up the whole machine. Usually looks like this - So to counter that I worked with a local machine shop in North Carolina to develop a modified wear plate that we use when we run 9mm - This is essentially a shell holder that works for 9mm only that is holding the case down so that when the norma brass gets stuck on the pin that it will have something holding it down as the machine is on its upstroke. Note - This design is not perfect, it causes a separate issue that we are still working on, but it helps significantly. 4) You will break pins constantly if you run the machine too hard, and if it starts to get bent but doesn't break, it will bend or warp the rod from FW Arms next. Thankfully you can order both pins and rods directly from FW arms without paying the international fees. Overall this product is really cool and has helped us automate / increase our processing significantly, but as another poster said, you cannot leave it unattended, and it does require a bit of TLC to keep it running optimally. Good info. When my decapper jams up, it's because of one of two reasons: 1) The pin in the die was not set low enough causing the primer to push halfway out of the pocket. This would cause the casing to hang up on the plate as it gets pushed forward by the next casing. It took me a couple of adjustments to make sure I had the pin set very low. 2) The decapped casing wouldn't fall down the chute and ends up crooked on top of the shell plate. I believe this is a result of just running the machine too fast, however, I wonder if I would get more consistent drops if that hole were opened up slightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltdmstr Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Has anyone tried the DaVinci ADM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc68cal Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, ltdmstr said: Has anyone tried the DaVinci ADM? I have one. It works quite well. The key is getting the right size tubing for the primer chute and the finished brass. I'll post a full review Edited April 25, 2022 by sc68cal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltdmstr Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, sc68cal said: I have one. It works quite well. The key is getting the right size tubing for the primer chute and the finished brass. I'll post a full review That would be great. I'm seriously considering getting one. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnymazz Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) I added a stop switch thats table mounted. I can sit on my stool and rest my thumb on the box. I am able to stop the machine now if theres a mishap , preventing the pin from getting broken. Edited May 23, 2022 by Johnnymazz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chgofirefighter Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 14 hours ago, Johnnymazz said: I added a stop switch thats table mounted. I can sit on my stool and rest my thumb on the box. I am able to stop the machine now if theres a mishap , preventing the pin from getting broken. That's pretty cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67isb Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Jmazz, That is a nice stop switch. I need to get one like it. By the time you hear the strange sound of the decapper, it is too late to stop it and you've broken a pin. I had a situation where a pin broke, but I didn't realize it and had to sort through bunch of brass that was not decapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austjoe Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Love my rollsize, I run it at 3000 per hour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chgofirefighter Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 On 1/13/2022 at 9:31 PM, CenTX said: I have now run a full bucket of 9mm brass, well over 5K pieces. All of it was range brass, everything from once fired to well worn. I had a total of seven jams. The four I mentioned earlier, the primers that stretched and formed a peak and were only partially ejected. I made the adjustment to the FW Decapper die height and the speed. The only jams after that were a pierced primer - the case/primer stuck on the decapping pin, and a Berdan primer. Looking back I should have noted the type of brass. Your results may vary. Overall all I'm pretty happy with the the RAD (Rollsizer Automatic Decapper). It's not something you can walk away and leave running, but I worked on other things in my shop, there is a rhythm to the various noises and you immediately know the instant something is wrong and hit the switch to off, then clear the jam. For the price I could have bought a lot commercially processed brass, but I like to tinker in my shop. I have always hated loading brass feeding tubes like on the Lee APP press I used to decap previously. Decapping is now much faster and much less tedious. When I first started I used a big plastic coffee can for the primers and changed to a clear plastic jar so I can see when it needs to be emptied. When clearing the jams, I usually had a case drop into the collection bucket and did not know if it was decapped or not, so I had to dig in the brass to try and find it. If I have anymore jams. I will pull the the hose out of the brass collection bucket before clearing the jam to avoid missing any that did not decap. Received the Rollsizer Decapping maching this weekend, after setup, and processing brass the FW Arms decapping die has broken 3 pins. I have yet to do 100 pieces of brass without encountering jams, broken pins, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chgofirefighter Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 On 4/24/2022 at 1:17 AM, TheCaryBrassGuy said: As a small commercial brass processor and authorized reseller the Rollsizer products, I would say that the statement above is accurate depending on what you are trying to process. Having bent / broke more pins / rods than I care to count from running the machine at or above its limitations, I have a few tips and tricks to share 1) It is very critical that you get the brass sorted properly BEFORE it goes into the decapper. Trying to get the .22LR off from the pin, and out of the .32 that is nested in a 9, that is nested in a 40, that is nested in a 45 is shall we say difficult. 2) It will run a bit better if it has already been dry tumbled in walnut or corn cob media. While you "CAN" run really dirty brass through it, that ends up getting on the linear guides for the push rod or the guide for the FW Arms Die 3) I can run fastest (As in full speed on the dial) on brass with large primers because they typically have large flash holes. Where I get in trouble is with that Norma brass crap on 9mm. This stuff will stick on the decapping pin every, single time and then jam up the whole machine. Usually looks like this - So to counter that I worked with a local machine shop in North Carolina to develop a modified wear plate that we use when we run 9mm - This is essentially a shell holder that works for 9mm only that is holding the case down so that when the norma brass gets stuck on the pin that it will have something holding it down as the machine is on its upstroke. Note - This design is not perfect, it causes a separate issue that we are still working on, but it helps significantly. 4) You will break pins constantly if you run the machine too hard, and if it starts to get bent but doesn't break, it will bend or warp the rod from FW Arms next. Thankfully you can order both pins and rods directly from FW arms without paying the international fees. Overall this product is really cool and has helped us automate / increase our processing significantly, but as another poster said, you cannot leave it unattended, and it does require a bit of TLC to keep it running optimally. I would love to get a modified wear plate for my Decapper~ On 4/24/2022 at 1:17 AM, TheCaryBrassGuy said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chgofirefighter Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 On 4/24/2022 at 1:17 AM, TheCaryBrassGuy said: As a small commercial brass processor and authorized reseller the Rollsizer products, I would say that the statement above is accurate depending on what you are trying to process. Having bent / broke more pins / rods than I care to count from running the machine at or above its limitations, I have a few tips and tricks to share 1) It is very critical that you get the brass sorted properly BEFORE it goes into the decapper. Trying to get the .22LR off from the pin, and out of the .32 that is nested in a 9, that is nested in a 40, that is nested in a 45 is shall we say difficult. 2) It will run a bit better if it has already been dry tumbled in walnut or corn cob media. While you "CAN" run really dirty brass through it, that ends up getting on the linear guides for the push rod or the guide for the FW Arms Die 3) I can run fastest (As in full speed on the dial) on brass with large primers because they typically have large flash holes. Where I get in trouble is with that Norma brass crap on 9mm. This stuff will stick on the decapping pin every, single time and then jam up the whole machine. Usually looks like this - So to counter that I worked with a local machine shop in North Carolina to develop a modified wear plate that we use when we run 9mm - This is essentially a shell holder that works for 9mm only that is holding the case down so that when the norma brass gets stuck on the pin that it will have something holding it down as the machine is on its upstroke. Note - This design is not perfect, it causes a separate issue that we are still working on, but it helps significantly. 4) You will break pins constantly if you run the machine too hard, and if it starts to get bent but doesn't break, it will bend or warp the rod from FW Arms next. Thankfully you can order both pins and rods directly from FW arms without paying the international fees. Overall this product is really cool and has helped us automate / increase our processing significantly, but as another poster said, you cannot leave it unattended, and it does require a bit of TLC to keep it running optimally. Can that modified guideplate be purchased??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigarmsp226 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 I would also be in for one of these modified guideplate if you decide to make more units. I am starting to see a little wear on mine. I am about 33,000 rounds thru my decapper so far……all small primer brass so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teejay Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Can that 9mm chell holder plate be ordered? That seams like the perfect fix for nasty ultra small Norma flash holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnymazz Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 On 9/14/2022 at 8:15 AM, chgofirefighter said: Received the Rollsizer Decapping maching this weekend, after setup, and processing brass the FW Arms decapping die has broken 3 pins. I have yet to do 100 pieces of brass without encountering jams, broken pins, etc. I would clean the brass in corncob for an hour prior to decapping. Get a stop switch like the one I posted, will save you from breaking pins. The machine isnt a dump the brass in and walk away unit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chgofirefighter Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 On 11/7/2022 at 4:22 AM, Johnnymazz said: I would clean the brass in corncob for an hour prior to decapping. Get a stop switch like the one I posted, will save you from breaking pins. The machine isnt a dump the brass in and walk away unit If you pay over 1k for a reloading tool, it should work out of the box, period! The issues were corrected after receiving new parts from Rollsizer and some guidance from its owner Kevin Whitehead... However, the parts needed were upgraded parts I guess my unit had older parts... Now she's running like a kitty! I can decap up to 2k without any hiccup... Literally turn on and walk away, come back brass is done!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnymazz Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 21 hours ago, chgofirefighter said: If you pay over 1k for a reloading tool, it should work out of the box, period! The issues were corrected after receiving new parts from Rollsizer and some guidance from its owner Kevin Whitehead... However, the parts needed were upgraded parts I guess my unit had older parts... Now she's running like a kitty! I can decap up to 2k without any hiccup... Literally turn on and walk away, come back brass is done!!! Then its all good in the hood for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chgofirefighter Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 5 hours ago, Johnnymazz said: Then its all good in the hood for you For now it is~ But the decapper from Rollsize needs to be tweaked to perform as indicated~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsjac Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 On 4/23/2022 at 8:52 PM, Johnnymazz said: pipe works great, I used a short one. Black pipe was tight, galvanized fit perfect. I know this is an old thread but..... Has anyone used the decapper to feed the roll sizer? So the brass would be deprimed then run through the roll sizer in one run through. I am thinking about buying both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnymazz Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 On 7/1/2023 at 6:05 AM, Jsjac said: I know this is an old thread but..... Has anyone used the decapper to feed the roll sizer? So the brass would be deprimed then run through the roll sizer in one run through. I am thinking about buying both. You dont want to do that. Brass should be cleaned before Rollsizing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsjac Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Johnnymazz said: You dont want to do that. Brass should be cleaned before Rollsizing Okay. Thanks for the heads up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnymazz Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Jsjac said: Okay. Thanks for the heads up NP, Kevin is a stand up guy. Ive talked to him many times on FB. He will take care of any issues you have. If you get the Rollsizer be prepared its heavy as hell LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tummen Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Has anyone tried to connect the decapping machine and the rollsizer in series? In my head my vision is a case feeder up top on the bench feeding a decapping machine which is feeding another casefeeder at bench level to a rollsizer under the bench and then drop cases on a bucket on a floor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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