matteekay Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Staccato was having a range day at my local shop so I got to play with a bunch of their guns. I'd never seen the single-stack models before and it made me wonder - do they use the same frame as the double-stack models? Or is the mag opening different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FALAR Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Yes, the grip module is completely different and much slimmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael303 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 2 hours ago, FALAR said: Yes, the grip module is completely different and much slimmer. Yes, the frame is the same just with a single stack grip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARac40 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 What did you think of the pistols? Which was your favorite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteekay Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 7 hours ago, FALAR said: Yes, the grip module is completely different and much slimmer. Right, but is the frame opening different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteekay Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 3 hours ago, ARac40 said: What did you think of the pistols? Which was your favorite? They're all nice. I wouldn't spend $4k on the one with the slide-mounted optic and comp; there are much better options for that much money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FALAR Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 23 minutes ago, matteekay said: Right, but is the frame opening different? I don't understand your question---the "opening" is in the grip module, which is obviously different. As for the metal frame itself 2011s were designed from day 1 to use 1911 top ends which is why the magazines taper so much, so at the top they are the same as a single stack mag. If you're thinking about buying a single stack gun and putting a double stack grip module on it that would entail a lot of work. The single stack grip modules are attached differently which includes the use of an adhesive and the single stack guns come with a card stating removal of the grip module voids the warranty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteekay Posted May 9, 2021 Author Share Posted May 9, 2021 3 hours ago, FALAR said: I don't understand your question---the "opening" is in the grip module, which is obviously different. As for the metal frame itself 2011s were designed from day 1 to use 1911 top ends which is why the magazines taper so much, so at the top they are the same as a single stack mag. If you're thinking about buying a single stack gun and putting a double stack grip module on it that would entail a lot of work. The single stack grip modules are attached differently which includes the use of an adhesive and the single stack guns come with a card stating removal of the grip module voids the warranty. I guess I needed to clarify that I meant the opening in the frame and not the grip... Either way, I went and talked to the rep. They use a different frame for the single- and-double stack models. It seems sort of silly - what's the point of a modular frame if you're going to be dedicated to one setup or the other? The delta in frame width is so minimal that an ambi safety makes a bigger difference. And then selling a modular setup but stating the separating the components voids the warranty? Okay, sure Staccato... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Hello, STI used to make a plastic grip that took 1911 style magazines. It used shims on the inside of the grip and a special magazine release to retain the 1911 magazines. I wish I still had the two that I had or could find who made the magazine release. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FALAR Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Aircooled6racer said: Hello, STI used to make a plastic grip that took 1911 style magazines. It used shims on the inside of the grip and a special magazine release to retain the 1911 magazines. I wish I still had the two that I had or could find who made the magazine release. Thanks, Eric Their current single stack gun-the Staccato C----uses 1911 mags also. So did the R but it's been discontinued. They used a purpose built plastic grip this time around though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 I am pretty sure the frames are different, meaning you can't just swap grips and have a 1911 and a 2011 with the same "gun" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakerjd Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Their warranty states removing any grip voids the warranty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 I know for sure you can't swap frames from a Staccato C and double-stack. Why that is I have no idea, but I don't see much point to it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Ability to have a two division gun for the price of a plastic grip would be nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteekay Posted May 17, 2021 Author Share Posted May 17, 2021 2 hours ago, shred said: I know for sure you can't swap frames from a Staccato C and double-stack. Why that is I have no idea, but I don't see much point to it either. The frame widths are ever-so-slightly different. And... 2 hours ago, waktasz said: Ability to have a two division gun for the price of a plastic grip would be nice This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Chet Whistle https://www.cwaccessories.com/product-page/cwa-wide-body-single-stack-grip makes a single stack grip that dropped on two different older STI frames that I have. I'm using it for a .22lr conversion with GSG .22lr magazines and it works great for that, BUT I have NOT tried it with real single stack 9mm, .40 or .45 magazines with a centerfire upper on the frame. Nolan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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