bac1023 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) I picked this up recently. I haven't shot it yet, but plan to as soon as the weather break around here. Anybody have one? Edited February 2, 2021 by bac1023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rnlinebacker Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Way too overpriced for the division it competes in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bac1023 Posted February 2, 2021 Author Share Posted February 2, 2021 Its not overpriced at all. They're selling for double the retail price on Gunbroker. Sure its expensive for Production, but its still a super high quality gun even if you don't compete at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 5 hours ago, bac1023 said: I picked this up recently. I haven't shot it yet, but plan to as soon as the weather break around here. Anybody have one? Because of its low price everyone probably has it. I intend to hang it on the wall as a cheap decoration. Who would not want a S.A. gun for Production Division. Yes it is a very interesting gun and I am convinced it is very accurate and works well. Enjoy the new toy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix1977 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Very cool gun sir! I hope you enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerofade Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 I have had one for a bit over a year, up here in Canada! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerofade Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 On 2/1/2021 at 5:45 PM, Rnlinebacker said: Way too overpriced for the division it competes in Kind of like all of the overpriced 2011s in limited right? This year, we saw that you can be limited champ with a polymer gun. The price gap for alien to other production gun is far less than the gap we see in limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix1977 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Just a matter of what you are willing to spend. A Ferarri is also way overpriced to get your weekly groceries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bimmer1980 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Zerofade said: Kind of like all of the overpriced 2011s in limited right? This year, we saw that you can be limited champ with a polymer gun. The price gap for alien to other production gun is far less than the gap we see in limited. This ! And the Alien really is a superior design for fast shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bac1023 Posted February 4, 2021 Author Share Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) Here's my Alien with some of its other recently introduced Production Class competition. CZ Shadow 2 Orange, Beretta 92X Performance, Walther Q5 Match SF Pro, Phoenix Redback, and Arex Rex Alpha Edited February 4, 2021 by bac1023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fasthenk65 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Love the Alien. As soon as I have reports on longer term reliability I buy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fencer1960 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Is the Alien really approved for Production? I couldn't find it on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 It is on the IPSC Production list, but not USPSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 On 2/5/2021 at 12:19 AM, Fasthenk65 said: Love the Alien. As soon as I have reports on longer term reliability I buy one. I am convinced that the gun is reliable. The only thing is a change in the PF over time. interestingly within a how many rounds it drops below 125 PF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fasthenk65 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 4 hours ago, yigal said: I am convinced that the gun is reliable. The only thing is a change in the PF over time. interestingly within a how many rounds it drops below 125 PF. Is this because the barrel is getting worse soon???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Fasthenk65 said: Is this because the barrel is getting worse soon???? not the barrel . the piston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fasthenk65 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 On 2/17/2021 at 3:45 PM, yigal said: not the barrel . the piston. Yigal my friend, do you have any idea how fast it's getting ' bad' ? And is it an expensive part you think? Somehow I want to like the Alien but afraid of 'new' technology... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Fasthenk65 said: Yigal my friend, do you have any idea how fast it's getting ' bad' ? And is it an expensive part you think? Somehow I want to like the Alien but afraid of 'new' technology... i like this gun too. it's the same mech. like on HK p7 . long ago all this guns HK that shoot in ipsc after 10K- 15k lost PF from 142 to 105 PF Unfortunately we had to disqualify all these guns for use in ipsc competitions Because the people could not get the parts to fix the problem. It is not for nothing that this gun quickly disappeared from all competitions around the world. piston itself very simple part and it's not expensive but if u will have any problem with piston sleeve it's expensive. every K rounds that u shoot u need change piston with larger diameter. and PF will back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerofade Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 4 hours ago, Fasthenk65 said: Yigal my friend, do you have any idea how fast it's getting ' bad' ? And is it an expensive part you think? Somehow I want to like the Alien but afraid of 'new' technology... I have had an alien for over a year. I probably only have about 15,000 rounds through it. I have not noticed a drop in PF. The gas piston is a replaceable part and I have a spare in my gun room already. I like to buy spare parts for any of my pistols, I purchased a full 'spare parts' kit for my alien for a couple hundred dollars. It is important to use FMJ projectiles (not coated or plated projectiles), otherwise fragments can eventually foul the gas system. Again, cleaning can repair it, but that can be more work than necessary as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 8 hours ago, Zerofade said: I have had an alien for over a year. I probably only have about 15,000 rounds through it. I have not noticed a drop in PF. The gas piston is a replaceable part and I have a spare in my gun room already. I like to buy spare parts for any of my pistols, I purchased a full 'spare parts' kit for my alien for a couple hundred dollars. It is important to use FMJ projectiles (not coated or plated projectiles), otherwise fragments can eventually foul the gas system. Again, cleaning can repair it, but that can be more work than necessary as well. very smart to have this spare parts. Especially since it is a rare gun. yes use only FMJ bullets. I hope, that this company has taken into account the disadvantages, which have been in such a mechanism in the past and have improved it. very attractive gun and design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC0331 Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 How is the trigger Bac1023? I know you have a Salient Tier one strike one. How does the Alien compare to that gun? Trigger? Accuracy? Muzzle flip? Reset? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myopic Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 On 2/19/2021 at 4:43 PM, Zerofade said: I have had an alien for over a year. I probably only have about 15,000 rounds through it. I have not noticed a drop in PF. The gas piston is a replaceable part and I have a spare in my gun room already. I like to buy spare parts for any of my pistols, I purchased a full 'spare parts' kit for my alien for a couple hundred dollars. It is important to use FMJ projectiles (not coated or plated projectiles), otherwise fragments can eventually foul the gas system. Again, cleaning can repair it, but that can be more work than necessary as well. My Alien has been great except for an issue with charging the pistol with a full mag depending on the ammo - the slide will jamb and not pull back This is a result of the firing pin “ saddle” than drops down in the slide having to pass over the bullet top to rack the slide - you can see the copper marks on the rear of the saddle It works with S&B 124 with effort - but totally jambs on Fed AE and other US made 9mm Will always go into battery from slide lock - Laugo is apparently aware of the problem but can’t engineer 10rnd mags with a lighter spring - I heard that other mags were available but the Canadian distributor did not offer that solution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myopic Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 On 6/1/2021 at 12:49 AM, USMC0331 said: How is the trigger Bac1023? I know you have a Salient Tier one strike one. How does the Alien compare to that gun? Trigger? Accuracy? Muzzle flip? Reset? Thanks Jumping in on the trigger question - my Alien pulls at 2.8 lbs - a couple mm of travel to defined wall and then a clean break - reset is really short at 2mm - no creep at all in this trigger - has the crisp feel and shape of the best striker you can imagine with the straight pull of a 1911 - it is a hammer fired SA - the hammer is just inverted inside the fixed top rail above the slide - it’s a very simple system Very low muzzle flip , accuracy is on par with a high end 1911 - have shot pairs into the same hole on competition stages - basically the pistol performs as advertised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bac1023 Posted August 16, 2021 Author Share Posted August 16, 2021 On 6/1/2021 at 12:49 AM, USMC0331 said: How is the trigger Bac1023? I know you have a Salient Tier one strike one. How does the Alien compare to that gun? Trigger? Accuracy? Muzzle flip? Reset? Thanks Sorry for the delay. I actually never shot my Signature Alien. A couple of them brought over $15,000 each onn Gunbroker, so I'm leaving it unfired. I recently picked up an Alien Performance and it shoots great. I think the is very similar to the trigger on the Salient Strike One, actually. Same gun, but without the signature and extras. In fact the Performance model doesn't come with the magwell. That was another $80. [URL=https://imageshack.com/i/pmyqFWiQj][IMG]https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/yqFWiQ.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Here it is with my Salient Strike One and CZ Shadow 2. The CZ has a much higher bore axis than either of them. [URL=https://imageshack.com/i/pnJ9Rvyej][IMG]https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/J9Rvye.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcflury Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 How long have you had that Phoenix Red Back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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