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They’re still polymer though. I love the Strike One design and love the new all metal models from Italy. Best striker triggers I've ever shot. Build quality and fit and finish among the best I’ve ever seen in Italian handguns.

I shot mine this week Great shooting pistol

No they aren’t He just got the Drakes in. The new Redback and Predator are next.

Ok well I have 12 of the best 2011’s on the market. The Drake is as nice or nicer than any of them.

I'm a huge fan of the Strike One design and have been shooting them since they were introduced to the states several years ago. I'm much more a fan of the metal frame variations though. I have an Ergal and Ergal Pro along with a polymer Salient model. They have the lowest bore axis of any locked breech pistol that I know of and they point very well for me. Here are a couple pictures of my Strike One Ergal. Trigger is identical to the Salient, but a lb lighter from the factory. The slide is that of a Strike One Speed.

Good to hear Just trying to get the word out. Look around and you’ll find more.

I hear you. I was just speaking of random rest accuracy.

I’ve been waiting for this pistol since just before the pandemic started and now I’m currently the only person in the United States who owns one (with others shipping out in a few days). I’ve made it no secret how high in regard I hold Phoenix products. They are all precision machined out of the finest materials and then fitted by hand in Interlaken, Switzerland. The Drake is the company’s new Limited spec competition pistol. While its similar to the smaller Redback in many ways, there are some big differences as well. The Drake is a larger gun and has a full 5” barrel, which is a half inch longer than the Redback. The magazines are longer, holding 20 rounds of 9mm instead of 17. However, the Drake was initially developed for the 40S&W, which is also available and I’m told the gun will be available in 10mm at some point, with conversion kits available. The magazine is not compatible with the Redback and therefore the Drake will also not take CZ magazines, like the Redback does. The Drake will also not take the larger CZ Tactical Sport magazines. They are actually large frame Tanfoglio magazines, so should be easily available. The gun does ship with four magazines from the factory as well. Additionally, the Drake has an accurizing internal bushing, very similar to the Briley bushing that S&W used to use on their Performance Center pistols. The Drake weighs in at a whopping 51.6oz with an empty magazine inserted, making it one of my heaviest semi autos. That heavy weight is there despite having a slide lightened for speed with a large cut on top. My excitement and expectation of this pistol is solely based on what I know about the company and my experience with the Redback and even the Fusion. Both models are outstanding shooters and my two all steel Redbacks are honestly two of the best shooting pistols I own. I have some that can match them, but none that outperform them, especially my SAO Redback. The trigger on that model is as good as it gets. The Drake’s trigger has the same feel and is about a quarter pound lighter than the Redback’s trigger on average, with a pull weight under 2lbs. Other than the weight, the feel of the trigger is second to none, including all my top 2011’s. There is simply no creep whatsoever. The reason I feel it could be the most accurate pistol is because Phoenix went to great lengths to develop the spherical bushing to enhance accuracy. They initially used a Briley bushing during Drake development, but through extensive testing, realized they only last about 15,000 rounds. If this bushing works like its supposed to, the gun should be more inherently accurate than the Redback, which has no bushing. I’ve known the Redback to be as accurate as any pistol I own and I’m quite confident in knowing I have example(s) of all the world’s most accurate semi autos. Its pure theory at this point and will never be easy to prove, but the Drake could very well be my most inherently accurate pistol. Its incredible trigger, awesome ergonomics and adjustable *thumb rest [generic]* will help shooters get the most out of that inherent accuracy too. The grips are very tacky and should be great for shooting. However, I will switch them out to something a little more fancy and colorful like I did with my Redbacks. I need to wait for Lok to develop some bogie grips for it. They are not compatible with Redback grips, unfortunately. From a pricing standpoint, Drake comes in at $5650 from The Attic in Minot, ND. They are the only importer of Phoenix firearms. As a really good repeat customer, I was able to get a few hundred off the price, but certainly a very expensive handgun t say the least. While that price will deter 99% of “gun people” when a CZ TSO will get you similar performance for less than a third of the price, I love high quality. To me, its worth the price and I’ve always sort of marched to my own drummer when it came to handguns. I believe The Attic got 35 Drakes in on this initial shipment. Many are already sold. I’m told more may be in next spring or summer. This is the epitome of a boutique firearms builder and they aren’t trying to sell the most. I believe the entire company is made up of less than 15 people. So there you have it. I wanted to give my initial thoughts that I’ll post across a few boards. This is the finest pistol I have bought all year, without a doubt, and also its instantly one of the finest pistols I own without question. Does anyone have experience with any of the Swiss Phoenix pistols? Please enjoy the pics and share your thoughts.

Sorry for the delay. I actually never shot my Signature Alien. A couple of them brought over $15,000 each onn Gunbroker, so I'm leaving it unfired. I recently picked up an Alien Performance and it shoots great. I think the is very similar to the trigger on the Salient Strike One, actually. Same gun, but without the signature and extras. In fact the Performance model doesn't come with the magwell. That was another $80. [URL=https://imageshack.com/i/pmyqFWiQj][IMG]https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/yqFWiQ.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Here it is with my Salient Strike One and CZ Shadow 2. The CZ has a much higher bore axis than either of them. [URL=https://imageshack.com/i/pnJ9Rvyej][IMG]https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/J9Rvye.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

...and I've pretty much owned them all. The Black Tie is one of the four new Meister Manufaktur pistols Walther is building. Its got a carbon steel frame and slide cut from solid billet steel. Its then Tennifer treated and finished with Stinox, which is a nice satin finish. The one piece wrap around grips are machined from a block of aerospace grade aluminum. The new Dynamik Performance Trigger is possibly the best striker fired trigger I've ever experienced. Even the presentation is top notch... [URL=https://imageshack.com/i/pmOYCx47j][IMG]https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/OYCx47.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=https://imageshack.com/i/pnVyKoRij][IMG]https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/VyKoRi.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=https://imageshack.com/i/pna0s7XGj][IMG]https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/a0s7XG.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=https://imageshack.com/i/powH8z4lj][IMG]https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/wH8z4l.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=https://imageshack.com/i/poBlwf4nj][IMG]https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/Blwf4n.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=https://imageshack.com/i/poBfjbsij][IMG]https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/Bfjbsi.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=https://imageshack.com/i/pn237LnHj][IMG]https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/237LnH.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=https://imageshack.com/i/poOlOr0Yj][IMG]https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/OlOr0Y.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=https://imageshack.com/i/pmV3tEAJj][IMG]https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/V3tEAJ.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=https://imageshack.com/i/pnmjeLCYj][IMG]https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/mjeLCY.jpg[/IMG][/URL] The Black Tie is hefty. It weighs in at 48oz with an empty magazine, which is 5oz heavier than my Q5 Match SF Pro on the left. The Black Tie is near double the price of the standard SF models, but well worth it, in my opinion. [URL=https://imageshack.com/i/poUNOGojj][IMG]https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/UNOGoj.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Anybody have one of these or any of the Meister ManufaKtur Walthers?

Here's my Alien with some of its other recently introduced Production Class competition. CZ Shadow 2 Orange, Beretta 92X Performance, Walther Q5 Match SF Pro, Phoenix Redback, and Arex Rex Alpha

Very cool to hear. Thanks Yeah I have all sorts of high end pistol, but the Phoenix is one of my favorites. I plan on getting a Drake when they finally make it stateside.

Yes, that's what I always do when I can't decide.

I got mine last month and it’s well worth the $5000. The first run of 500 seems to be the better value considering what it comes with. The standard model is supposed to be $800-$1000 less, but won’t come with the extra top rail and optic or the holster. Not even sure it will come with two extra magazines. People are flipping them for huge profits, but I’ll keep mine. I wouldn’t mind getting a standard model if and when they become available. Hopefully in different finish schemes.

The frame was not plastic, it was steel with a plastic covering. The trigger guard was plastic