Face5535 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Looking for thoughts on toolhead die set up on a 1050! I have upgraded to the CNC Enhanced toolheads, so I now have an extra die spot over the priming station. I have noticed that 9mm Dillon dies can often times give a bottle neck shape... and Dillons seating die can leave a "ring" around the top of the bullet nose. I think I am going to move to a Redding competition seating die. I am curious what the rest of the group is running... Ive looked at FW Arms Decap, Mighty Armory Dies, and Redding dies as well. Anyone have some thoughts on full toolhead set up for 9mm, 38 super, and 45? I am thinking that a MA Decapping Die, Lee U die (decap pin removed), and a M Die followed by powder drop, MBF, Redding seating, and then either RCBS,Redding, or Dillon Crimp for 9mm. Not set on this, but I think it could be a good plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHI Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Complete set of redding dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George16 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 For my processing toolhead, I’m using FW Arms decapper, FW Arms Swage hold down and Lee Udie. I used this for processing both 9mm and .223 For my reloading toolhead, Redding sizing die, Dillon hold down, MBF funnel, Redding competition die and Redding taper crimp die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belus Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 For 9mm I run it through first with two universal decapping dies and no swage rod to ensure the primers are gone. The decapping dies are Dillon and Lee with the FFB RCBS conversion. That tool head also has Dillon and Lee sizing dies for 40sw, but they don't get involved when 9mm passes through. Then I load with: Dillon Sizing die Lee U-die / Swage Primer MBF Powder drop MBF Dillon Seat Lee FCD I guess if I had an extra station before the powder drop I'd use an M die and hope the bullets seat straighter? I've not really noticed a need for anything there so far though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chgofirefighter Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 On 9/27/2020 at 7:07 PM, Face5535 said: Looking for thoughts on toolhead die set up on a 1050! I have upgraded to the CNC Enhanced toolheads, so I now have an extra die spot over the priming station. I have noticed that 9mm Dillon dies can often times give a bottle neck shape... and Dillons seating die can leave a "ring" around the top of the bullet nose. I think I am going to move to a Redding competition seating die. I am curious what the rest of the group is running... Ive looked at FW Arms Decap, Mighty Armory Dies, and Redding dies as well. Anyone have some thoughts on full toolhead set up for 9mm, 38 super, and 45? I am thinking that a MA Decapping Die, Lee U die (decap pin removed), and a M Die followed by powder drop, MBF, Redding seating, and then either RCBS,Redding, or Dillon Crimp for 9mm. Not set on this, but I think it could be a good plan. Where did you purchase the upgraded tool head for the 1050? I am using a On Point MFG toolhead with my 1100... Great tool head by the way, allows to have one more station over the primer station. My die setup, FW Arms decapper, Lee U die as a swage hold down, Lee U die on the primer station, powder drop, DAA bullet feeder die, Redding Competition seater and Lee crimp die.. I've been thinking of upgrading to a Redding Competition crimp die but Lee has been working well, besides I rarely use the Dillon reloading press, my main go to press is the Mark 7 Evo. Ocassionally I use the Dillon 1100 to load major ammo, and process brass by using the stock Dillon toolhead for processing brass. With the Dillon toolhead I am using the FW Arms decapper, followed by resizing 2x times.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noylj Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 bottleneck/wasp waist is a desirable result for 9x19. Makes bullet set back more difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOGRIDER Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Following............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fracs Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) I’m also using the CNC shooter toolheads! Edited September 29, 2020 by Fracs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartanArmament Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 What are the folks with CNC Toolheads using over Swage and over Primer stations?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOGRIDER Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) My question for those using a CNC/Aftermarket toolhead on the Dillon machines, is: Will a sizing die or expander die yield sufficient down force on the case to provide a suitable backer for the priming station? Or would something like the FW Arms die be necessary to control consistent primer seating depth? https://fwarms.com/shop/reloading/f-w-arms-auto-center-swage-foot/ UPDATE: I'm now thinking that those who use a die/die body above the primer station are actually seeing more that adequate "down force" as the die body is threaded down against the shell plate! Edited October 1, 2020 by HOGRIDER sp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOGRIDER Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 On 9/27/2020 at 8:07 PM, Face5535 said: Looking for thoughts on toolhead die set up on a 1050! I have upgraded to the CNC Enhanced toolheads, so I now have an extra die spot over the priming station. I have noticed that 9mm Dillon dies can often times give a bottle neck shape... and Dillons seating die can leave a "ring" around the top of the bullet nose. I think I am going to move to a Redding competition seating die. I am curious what the rest of the group is running... Ive looked at FW Arms Decap, Mighty Armory Dies, and Redding dies as well. Anyone have some thoughts on full toolhead set up for 9mm, 38 super, and 45? I am thinking that a MA Decapping Die, Lee U die (decap pin removed), and a M Die followed by powder drop, MBF, Redding seating, and then either RCBS,Redding, or Dillon Crimp for 9mm. Not set on this, but I think it could be a good plan. OP: On my Dillon RL1100, I'm using Redding Pro Competition dies at all three stations along with a MBF and the MBF funnel under the powder measure. NEVER have a problem with my reloads. If I were buying dies individually, I would definitely consider the FW Arms universal decapper; or hold out for their new Primer Popper for your dedicated decapping die! https://fwarms.com/shop/reloading/f-w-arms-auto-center-decapper/ https://fwarms.com/shop/reloading/pre-order-fw-arms-primer-popper-auto-case-centering-decapper-deprimer/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk21 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Everglades makes a nice cost effective primer hold down mechanism that fits in the factory Dillon 1050 tool head over the priming station, so I can’t see the need for an aftermarket head with tapped full size opening at this location. Now I’m sure it’s more durable, but unless you are running automated I can’t imagine the factory head falling short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOGRIDER Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Everglades makes a nice cost effective primer hold down mechanism that fits in the factory Dillon 1050 tool head over the priming station, so I can’t see the need for an aftermarket head with tapped full size opening at this location. Now I’m sure it’s more durable, but unless you are running automated I can’t imagine the factory head falling short.Running one on my RL1100:Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddc Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, SpartanArmament said: What are the folks with CNC Toolheads using over Swage and over Primer stations? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Standard Dillon swage backer die over swage station. Die is turned down so no expander function; only swage backing. Lee Universal Case expander die with guts replaced by MBF funnel over the primer station. I like being able to separate the swage backing from the expanding. Edited September 30, 2020 by ddc added detail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George16 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 I don’t see a need for the Everglades primer hold down on my 1100. In fact, the seating depth of the primers has been consistent at .004” below flush. My guns doesn’t have any problems lighting them off even with CCI on my shadow 2 with an 11.5# main spring. I believe the key is making sure the shellplate is set up correctly to prevent excessive wobble or deflection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kema Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 What is the best die for swage station? Hitting some .22 cases inside 9mm time to time and original one seems to mold them to 9mm case... Currently running 9mm - Dillon decap, size - Dillon original swage - primer, none - powder, with DAA expander - MBF - Dillon seat - Lee FC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George16 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Kema said: What is the best die for swage station? Hitting some .22 cases inside 9mm time to time and original one seems to mold them to 9mm case... Currently running 9mm - Dillon decap, size - Dillon original swage - primer, none - powder, with DAA expander - MBF - Dillon seat - Lee FC I’m using Dillon’s Swage die on my loading toolhead. I don’t get any .22s since I pre-process my brass using a FW Arms decapper, FW Arms Swage foot die and Lee U-die on my processing toolhead. loading toolhead - Redding size die - Dillon Swage die - primer, none - DAA powder funnel - MBF - Redding competition die - Lee FCD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powder Finger Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 On 9/29/2020 at 6:07 PM, HOGRIDER said: Running one on my RL1100: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro i actually just ordered 2 of these even though i have been using a homemade one since the early 1990's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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