B_RAD Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Will the following work in both? Connector Guide rod Mag release Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWfront Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Connector and mag release are compatible. As for the guide rod the 19 share the same but the 17/34 Gen 5 is longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slalom45 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 I've wondered about that. I use the Jager oversize. On their web site they list "Gen 5 guide rod", but in reading the info it's the same as the Gen 4 wording. (Including saying Gen 4) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWfront Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 I had the oversized Jager for my gen 5 but found the longer rod took out to much preload from the spring and it had weak lock up so I went back to their small rod and ISMI springs and all has been well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share Posted April 24, 2019 I use a Glock store tungsten with am 11 lb ISMI. Was hoping they'd be interchangeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaShooter88 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, B_RAD said: I use a Glock store tungsten with am 11 lb ISMI. Was hoping they'd be interchangeable. Just curious why do you use 11lb instead of 13lb? Is it a Glock 17? I’m about to get a guide rod for my carry optics Glock 17. I’ve never ran an aftermarket guide rod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) 48 minutes ago, BamaShooter88 said: Just curious why do you use 11lb instead of 13lb? Is it a Glock 17? I’m about to get a guide rod for my carry optics Glock 17. I’ve never ran an aftermarket guide rod. A couple of years ago Vogel told me he used an 11 in all his Glocks. Even in his 24. So, I just bought those. I use 8/9 lb in my open gun. Recoil spring is just to send the slide back forward, strip the next round out of the mag and to lock the gun back up in battery. Not really to soften the blow of the slide hitting the frame. I'd buy both and see which one you like best then stick with that. Maybe even film yourself just shooting. See how the gun returns. If it dips a lot then maybe the 11lb would be better. I've always heard the ismi springs we're not as accurate to their specified poundage as the wolff springs. Though, I use them on my tungsten GR because the Wolff won't fit. YMMV. I shoot 34's. Edited April 24, 2019 by B_RAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWfront Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 To me the loss of a little preload in the spring made it feel like I had to go with next weight up to get the same result. My 13lb spring feels like what an 11lb used to in my Gen 4. YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share Posted April 24, 2019 I wouldn't sweat using a 13 lb. I wouldn't even give it a second thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamese35 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 In my production gun a gen 4 g34 I run a jaeger polymer guid with a ismi 11 pound spring. In my gun I have to run a minimum of a 4.5 pound striker spring or my slide doesn't return 100 percent to home. I have almost 30k rounds on this setup without a issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpaw Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 10 hours ago, NWfront said: To me the loss of a little preload in the spring made it feel like I had to go with next weight up to get the same result. My 13lb spring feels like what an 11lb used to in my Gen 4. YMMV. I don't have a Gen 5 yet, but I've wondered about this. I'd think really they should be making different springs for the Gen 5 since the preload isn't the same with a Gen 1-4 spring. Just like how the springs are different between Glock 19 and 17/34 springs for the same weight. But I don't know how much this really matters since I'm not an engineer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 Is what y'all are taking about like the Walthers? I know if you go too light on those, they'll come out of battery just a little while you're running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamese35 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 40 minutes ago, B_RAD said: Is what y'all are taking about like the Walthers? I know if you go too light on those, they'll come out of battery just a little while you're running. Its possible, what keeps a glock from going back in to battery is the recoil spring has to over come pushing a fresh round into the chamber and resetting the striker at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 On 4/24/2019 at 1:02 PM, NWfront said: I had the oversized Jager for my gen 5 but found the longer rod took out to much preload from the spring and it had weak lock up so I went back to their small rod and ISMI springs and all has been well. By “oversized Jager” I assume you mean the heavy .270” diameter version which is only compatibly with Wolff springs. In my experience a 12# Wolff spring is lighter than a 11# ISMI spring, so that may be part of the equation as well. When I was using that guide rod I couldn’t find a Wolff 13# spring (only 12 or 14) so I used the 12# and didn’t have any issues in my gen 4 gun. Just thought I’d point out that the Wolff and ISMI springs don’t seem to be exactly the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWfront Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Yes I was referring to the .270" with Wolff springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slalom45 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Ditto on the .270" Jager and Wolff 12# in my current Gen4 34. I'm on the verge of buying a Gen 5 as well and was hoping the same set up would work. Sound like it may take a bit of experimentation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slalom45 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 In regard to the lack of pre load, would using using my 12# Wolff on the longer Gen 5 rod cause it to not stay in battery? (Sorry if it's an obvious answer. Still kinda new at some of this) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick779 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Slalom45 said: Ditto on the .270" Jager and Wolff 12# in my current Gen4 34. I'm on the verge of buying a Gen 5 as well and was hoping the same set up would work. Sound like it may take a bit of experimentation. My gen 5 won't go into battery with a ismi 13, and kinda works with a 15 on the factory striker spring. With the TTI GM kit, it works perfect with the 15, but The 13 is slow with the vertical test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWfront Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 With the TTI springs I could go 13lb ismi or 15 lb Wolff. The lighter ismi still seems like it locks with a little more authority. With a factory springs I had to go up to a 17 and at that point the OEM dual spring felt the best. The OEM RS actually performs quite well in the Gen 5 to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuayThaiJJ Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 On 4/24/2019 at 12:08 PM, B_RAD said: A couple of years ago Vogel told me he used an 11 in all his Glocks. Even in his 24. So, I just bought those. I use 8/9 lb in my open gun. Recoil spring is just to send the slide back forward, strip the next round out of the mag and to lock the gun back up in battery. Not really to soften the blow of the slide hitting the frame. Where did you get 8/9 lb recoil springs for your Glock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braxton1 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) I am pretty sure Jason was referring to his usual 2011 platform Open Gun, not a Glock. (I went ahead and answered because he's rarely on the Forum anymore.) Edited January 18, 2023 by Braxton1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuayThaiJJ Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Ah thanks, yes I have searched high and low. Cannot find a sub 10# recoil spring for Glock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vluc Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Short of cutting coils off of a 10# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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