gnappi Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Twinkie said: IPSC doesn't have a box for Production. I quoted: "92XPerf is now USPSA Production legal. Have to take off one or reduce the safeties to fit the box. " And USPSA DOES, unless my 2020 rule book is incorrect and I said "competitors" nothing about IPSC Edited March 26, 2020 by gnappi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Money Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 2 hours ago, gnappi said: I quoted: "92XPerf is now USPSA Production legal. Have to take off one or reduce the safeties to fit the box. " And USPSA DOES, unless my 2020 rule book is incorrect and I said "competitors" nothing about IPSC USPSA has a box for Prod. IPSC does not. They aren't the same rules. Thus, Beretta designed the pistol without concern for width because in IPSC it doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnappi Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 27 minutes ago, Twinkie said: USPSA has a box for Prod. IPSC does not. They aren't the same rules. Thus, Beretta designed the pistol without concern for width because in IPSC it doesn't matter. As was said in other threads in the U.S there are few enough IPSC matches to be of concern. I could give a crap less whether peeps buy them, as a matter of fact, if they're discontinued as most "float a balloon" designs Beretta comes out with have been, I have (when I get it back) mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stony Lane Posted March 26, 2020 Author Share Posted March 26, 2020 The 92X Performance was designed by the Italians primarily for IPSC in Europe and the rest of the world. Beretta USA, as I understand it, was not involved in the project. (The ideal US gun would be the steel frame, no safety levers, with a vertec G slide!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnappi Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 On 3/26/2020 at 3:15 PM, Stony Lane said: The 92X Performance was designed by the Italians primarily for IPSC in Europe and the rest of the world. Beretta USA, as I understand it, was not involved in the project. (The ideal US gun would be the steel frame, no safety levers, with a vertec G slide!) Maybe a Vertec "G" would sell, maybe. Considering from the USPSA site... "Our over 31,000 active members and over 440 affiliated clubs makes USPSA the largest practical shooting organization in the United States" I think they may have missed some customers here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
427Cobra Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) I shot a brand new 92x Performance today, being a veteran I have little love for the 92fs, WOW what a difference, the safety is where it should be, trigger reset was very short, and I liked the sights, the owner was shooting a shotgun pattern at 10 yards, while he was shooting my Infinity I shot a mag of his white box Winchester, I really think I could have done the Lethal Weapon happy face. Edited April 20, 2020 by 427Cobra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamese35 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Does anyone know where I can get the 92x configuration for open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnappi Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 On 5/20/2020 at 5:35 AM, Jamese35 said: Does anyone know where I can get the 92x configuration for open? I read that Beretta had planned a full out "race" version (actually three XP models total including the first model we already have now showing up in stores) of the X'perf but with their shutdown and other problems with the current model have put everything in the air. A DWX might be a better new release to bet on If I had the opportunity to shoot my X'perf alongside my side my Tanfo Limited Pro I'd not have bought the Beretta. It seems as if EVERY reviewer is a sycophant on Beretta's teat that can find nothing odd about the X. Nice gun, but not now or ever gonna be a race gun, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkster Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 On 7/15/2020 at 4:20 PM, gnappi said: I read that Beretta had planned a full out "race" version (actually three XP models total including the first model we already have now showing up in stores) of the X'perf but with their shutdown and other problems with the current model have put everything in the air. A DWX might be a better new release to bet on If I had the opportunity to shoot my X'perf alongside my side my Tanfo Limited Pro I'd not have bought the Beretta. It seems as if EVERY reviewer is a sycophant on Beretta's teat that can find nothing odd about the X. Nice gun, but not now or ever gonna be a race gun, IMO. I think the feedback on the Beretta forum has been similar to yours, provided that the feedback comes from someone using it in competitive events. Still a lot to like about it, but imperfect The smaller safety levers (and XL) just got posted on the Beretta USA site. I ordered a set in hopes that it resolves the unreachable slide lock issue. I don't like the way the vertec grip feels and the slide could have used some grip wings in place of where the slide safeties used to be (ala VP9). I can run it just fine as is, but I'll probably move to a Shadow 2 eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnappi Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, porkster said: I think the feedback on the Beretta forum has been similar to yours, provided that the feedback comes from someone using it in competitive events. Still a lot to like about it, but imperfect The smaller safety levers (and XL) just got posted on the Beretta USA site. I ordered a set in hopes that it resolves the unreachable slide lock issue. I don't like the way the vertec grip feels and the slide could have used some grip wings in place of where the slide safeties used to be (ala VP9). I can run it just fine as is, but I'll probably move to a Shadow 2 eventually. So everyone who bought one to evaluate for competition and decided it's not their cup o tea should have their opinion disregarded? With that logic even shooting stars and gun mag reviewers who no longer or never did compete those opinions are worthless. You're right, there's a lot to like about it, but we'll see if shooters use it. Anyone in So.Flo who would like to test drive mine, PM me, bring your ammo and buckazoids for local range time and I'll let you have a tryout, can't beat that ! Edited July 21, 2020 by gnappi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkster Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) In case anyone else is interested in modified levers and slide release: Here is a picture of my ground down lever with my hand in the shooting position but thumb under the levers: And a clearer picture of the side. These are the Beretta slim safety levers with the left side ground down even further with an extended slide release. Edited August 4, 2020 by porkster pic link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stony Lane Posted August 6, 2020 Author Share Posted August 6, 2020 On 5/20/2020 at 5:35 AM, Jamese35 said: Does anyone know where I can get the 92x configuration for open? Check this out: http://www.tonisystem.it/EN/beretta-92x-open.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnappi Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Stoney, I visited that site and added up the cost... Not cheap but that stuff looks top notch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnappi Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 As of now, my X'perf is back on the way to Beretta for the second time. After getting it back (was there 4 months) it functioned perfectly for around 200 rounds (Winchester white box) and upon taking it home to clean it, the slide would not come off... again... but this time it took a wood dowel under the rear sight blade and a rubber mallet to get it off. And NO this has NOTHING to do with "tight tolerances of a competition gun" as has been suggested, that is unless these tight tolerances are expected to change and get tighter as it's used Anyway, I found the issue. Inside the frame just under the front most portion where the rail ends, the metal has "closed" sufficiently to keep the locking block (and a half dozen other LB's and barrels I have) from moving forward of the points in the pic below. The LB stops dead in it's track right where a spare LB is in the pic. Curious that Beretta claimed the take down latch was the cause, but on both sides where the red arrows are there are distinct marks which look like either a file or dremel was taken to relieve it. At this point I suspect a hardening issue, and I hope they replace the frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpm8300 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Strongly looking at this as a production gun - a couple questions and I apologize if they've been answered else where: -Any throat issues with 147 RN Blues and other similar molys? -Any 147 plated or 165 plated load data with N320 or Titegroup? A local buddy who runs on had a series of issues with failures to eject - casings getting stuck and causing malfunctions - anyone have issues with that? Thanks, Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stony Lane Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 2 hours ago, rpm8300 said: Strongly looking at this as a production gun - a couple questions and I apologize if they've been answered else where: -Any throat issues with 147 RN Blues and other similar molys? -Any 147 plated or 165 plated load data with N320 or Titegroup? A local buddy who runs on had a series of issues with failures to eject - casings getting stuck and causing malfunctions - anyone have issues with that? Thanks, Tom Wilson's extra strength extractor spring clears up most of the extraction issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkster Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Agreed, a number of us were able to remedy the FTE issue with the 150% wilson spring. Mine has had zero issues since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpm8300 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 On 9/21/2020 at 10:13 PM, porkster said: Agreed, a number of us were able to remedy the FTE issue with the 150% wilson spring. Mine has had zero issues since. Thanks for the input - do any of you guys mind sharing some load data to get started? I'm looking at using some Stock 2 load data but the Beretta's barrel is an unknown. Any throating issues? Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xround Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 On 8/3/2020 at 10:16 PM, porkster said: In case anyone else is interested in modified levers and slide release: Here is a picture of my ground down lever with my hand in the shooting position but thumb under the levers: And a clearer picture of the side. These are the Beretta slim safety levers with the left side ground down even further with an extended slide release. porkster, care to share details on your grinding process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chills1994 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) This showed up on USPSA's Facebook page on October 2nd. So where can one find/get/buy the version pictured below? Edited October 13, 2020 by Chills1994 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chills1994 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 I am ASSuming there isn't a .40 cal version....at least not yet??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeMartens Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Chills1994 said: This showed up on USPSA's Facebook page on October 2nd. So where can one find/get/buy the version pictured below? thats a damn good photo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chills1994 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, JakeMartens said: thats a damn good photo Well....YEAH! But did you get to shoot the new Beretta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnappi Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 11:19 PM, Chills1994 said: I am ASSuming there isn't a .40 cal version....at least not yet??? Well, yes and no. Any 96D slide is inexpensively "modded" to fit the 92X, all it needs is to have the left side of the slide cut for the safety paddle. A 96D Brig slide can have Beretta front and rear adj sights installed also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chills1994 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 40 minutes ago, gnappi said: Well, yes and no. Any 96D slide is inexpensively "modded" to fit the 92X, all it needs is to have the left side of the slide cut for the safety paddle. A 96D Brig slide can have Beretta front and rear adj sights installed also. Nice! But the mags can probably only 15 or 16 rounds of .40....right? Also, I like the more traditional curved backstrap. The grips on my M9A3 kinda simulates that. Would said curved grips also fit the 92X? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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