konkapot Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 I would like to hear from high volume shooters as to what longevity/durability they are experiencing with their Berettas. The "book" on the 92s indicates a service life of 8-10k rounds. My experiences with 96s (with major ammo) is a bit less than that. How many rounds are you guys getting out of your guns before locking blocks start breaking, frame rails start cracking, etc. Thanks FY42385 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precision40 Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 My Dad picked up a 92f right after they were available to the public. He has probably 20-30k through it, has never changed a spring or had a single problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 My 92FS had an early problem (after maybe 4000 rounds?), where the locking block broke. When I talked to Langdon, he had mentioned it was the first (or nearly?) that he'd heard of.. Zero problems with my 96V - it has more rounds thorugh it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 My gun didn't puke until close to the 100,000 count. Easily the most reliable gun I've ever owned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoNsTeR Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 My wife's is well over 10k with no parts replaced, not even the recoil spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZGunut Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 I have 12,000 rounds through a used to me Elite II in 9mm and have had no problems with it to date (Knock on wood) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Olhasso Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 I've been shooting beretta 92s & 96s exclusivly for 3 years now. I have two 96s and they both easily have 15-20K (light loads) rounds thru them with no problems. I have several 92s with no issues as well. Some years ago, beretta changed the locking block design to remove a stress point which was the cause of the broken locking blocks. To be honest, I had a very old (50k + rounds) 92 break a frame rail. Of course this gun had 4 of the 6 rails milled out and steel inserts tapped in, and a very tight match barrel fit. Chances are, one of the mods done to this gun caused the rail to break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.e.t. Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 A firearms instructer for the state police that I know has a 92G with over 170,000 rounds through it. He is also a Beretta armorer and all of the springs have been changed multiple times. Almost all of the rounds were 147g. Federal Hydroshocks. He bought the 92 when his department transitioned to 96's. I have a similar 92G with 15,000 rounds through it at last count. I have to agree with Mr. Di Vita, the most reliable gun I have ever owned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splashdown Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 I'm hardly a high volume shooter as I only shoot one club match per month and don't get much practice time. I've got nearly 7000 rounds through my 92 Elite 2. The only problem I've been having lately is some failures to fire. Last time I stripped the frame down I noticed slight rounding of the hammer/sear engagement and I believe this is causing the problem. Other than that, she's ran really well and I just might have a 96 to try out by my next club match. splashdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougCarden Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Being a Department armorer and having worked on 35 guns the last 13 years before we switched them out, the locking blocks are the weak link. I had them break any where from 4K to 8K, 6 total, bottom left side everytime. Having said that, Nothing wrong with the guns but having a big grip for small hands. Mine is in my house loaded..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bountyhunter Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 The "book" on the 92s indicates a service life of 8-10k rounds. My experiences with 96s (with major ammo) is a bit less than that. Thanks FY42385 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That book is completely wrong. The Army tested them shooting hot +p+ 124gr ammo and found an average MTBF (mean time before failure) of about 30,000 rounds over a very large sample size. That was with the older design locking blocks which were weaker and have now been beefed up. I have 20 - 25K rounds on my 92 with zero part breakage. I don't dispute that the 96 design may be ashade weak for the .40 round, since it is identical to the 92. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splashdown Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 The locking block wasn't "beefed up" really. They just rounded the inside corners. Square corners concentrate stress at one point and are more prone to failure. http://beretta.squawk.com/blocks.html splashdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cking Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Had a block break with about 20K on it, hasn't broken since the new one with over 20K on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 I wonder what the slide/frame fit is after lots of rounds. With the aluminum frame and all. Anybody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Olhasso Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Splashdown.. I suggest you pull your firing pin and check the channel for gunk. I have seen couple Elites with a bunch of gunk in the firing pin channel which of course affect reliability. Spook: As for the slide to frame fit: They are designed to be slighly loose from the beginning and do not appear to loosen up that much over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfs Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 I have a Taurus PT92 and it's with my wife now. I've had over 8,000 rounds with it and I just change the recoil and firing pin springs every 3,000 rounds. Works fine for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Spook:As for the slide to frame fit: They are designed to be slighly loose from the beginning and do not appear to loosen up that much over time. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks David! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 As with any gun the key to reliability is preventative maintenance (cleaning, lubrication, spring replacement, etc.) and learning how to spot the warning signs of the most common problems. I know so many shooters who never inspect their gun for problems and then wonder why "it just broke all of a sudden". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Murphy Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 They had a Beretta 92 at the Chapman academy when I went there in 1999 that had 130,000 rounds on it. Their regular loaner. I wonder if it is still in use. The locking block broke the week I was there and John Scaggs had one ready to go. Said he figured it was nearly due for one when the gun hit 120K rounds. I think it was the 4th block he put in that gun. Not too bad a deal there. Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Stoeger Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 I have been beating my practice gun to death for awhile now. aside from regular maitnence, no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 I have a 92 G elite 2 with a little over 80K through it before it lost any hope of accuracy. had one case head failure. but the gun still functions flawlessly.. just groups about 8" at 25 yards. and is noticibly looser than my new elite 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoNsTeR Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Give ya $100 for it Edit: hey who edited my post? I swear I said $100 the first time, not $1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacblack Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 My Taurus 92 had about 25k through it and I didn't brake it, till I let a girl I went out with shoot it. Second mag she broke it but Im blaming her not the gun The gun had many many hot rounds the first years of its life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Give ya $100 for it Edit: hey who edited my post? I swear I said $100 the first time, not $1000 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I saw it. $1000. Take him up on it Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB92 Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Hey all. My Beretta 92SB-Compact circa 1983 has about 150k through it, with the origonal locking block which sits on top of my computer desk. Its at APW getting hard chromed...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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