johnbu Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Had a club member tell me that stringing an ELEVATED prop activation cord behind a row of poppers, where any falling popper would drop on the cord and activate a prop, was illegal. I can't find that discussed in the rule book. He couldn't cite a ruling, but i don't want to unknowingly violate a rule. (We're a brand new club). Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBurgess Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 To the best of my knowledge there is no rule against it, and I have set up so either one of two poppers will set off a moving target more than once. Basically of there is no rule against something then you can do it. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stick Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 No rule against it. All I could find on the matter was this rule. 4.5.1 The competitor must not interfere with the range surface, natural foliage, constructions, props or other range equipment (including targets, target stands and target activators) at any time. Violations may incur one procedural penalty per occurrence at the discretion of the Range Officer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 The activation should be consistent for all competitors. Maybe that’s what he was thinking of?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caspian guy Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Seen it done plenty of times not aware of any issue with it. I never mind when doing stage design having people help keep me out of trouble, but if you tell me something is "illegal" you are going to have to back that up with the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Matt1 said: The activation should be consistent for all competitors. Maybe that’s what he was thinking of? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Possibly. Imagine this; 5 poppers in a single row. Any one of them falls, a prop is activated. Is it "inconsistent" if popper 1 or popper 4 activates it? i don't think so, but... ?? That was what i was discribing at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 39 minutes ago, johnbu said: Possibly. Imagine this; 5 poppers in a single row. Any one of them falls, a prop is activated. Is it "inconsistent" if popper 1 or popper 4 activates it? i don't think so, but... ?? That was what i was discribing at the time. If all shooters have the option of shooting any of the poppers and each individual popper reacts consistently, there is no issue with this array. It is the shooters responsibility to choose an order of engagement to suit their shooting skills and stage plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 ^^ that was my thought. Thanks for the confirmation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppa Bear Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Your only issue with an elevated activation wire is the greater chance of it being shot and severed by a shot that misses at that elevation. The closer that elevation is to the top of the popper the greater the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFO Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 On 2/18/2018 at 3:29 PM, Poppa Bear said: Your only issue with an elevated activation wire is the greater chance of it being shot and severed by a shot that misses at that elevation. The closer that elevation is to the top of the popper the greater the chance. This was my thought on that setup, too. Once a cable is shot and kinked, it likely won't activate quite the same for the shooters who come after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHA-LEE Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Any time I hear someone say "ABC123 is illegal" and its not obviously known as illegal then I push back and have them produce evidence of it being illegal in the rule book. If they can't provide ruling evidence of their claims then their opinion on the subject in question really doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 (edited) what cha-lee said. fwiw I have seen such a popper activation method at numerous L2 and i think even at L3 matches. Edited February 20, 2018 by motosapiens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cody6477 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 On 2/18/2018 at 10:29 AM, ChuckS said: If all shooters have the option of shooting any of the poppers and each individual popper reacts consistently, there is no issue with this array. It is the shooters responsibility to choose an order of engagement to suit their shooting skills and stage plan. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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