Hunter1998 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Anyone have loading data for wst powder with 124 jhp 9mm minor? Winchester loading manual doesn't show wst for 9mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgh Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 IIRC, Winchester does not recommend WST for 9mm because of pressure issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 4.1-4.2 WST, CCI primer 124 Bayou, COL 1.150 make 132-134. 5" 1911 little higher in Glock 34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdinga Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Older Hornady manuals list WST. Hornady 4th edition shows 124 jacketed with WST--start 4.8-max 5.4 If you google search skills are really strong, you can still find original Winchester Load data for WST. Use this tip carefully. ....you can generally take a published load with 231 and reduce the load by .1 and use the data for WST in 9mm WST will perform best with 147's and coated lead. My personal favorite is 3.6-3.7 grains of WST with a 147 Bayou flat point or the Zero 147 JHP Darrell has published several spreadsheets on this forum showing his load data with various lead bullets. Lots of excellent WST data in those sheets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intel6 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Here you go, the pic below is the scan of the Hornady 9mm data showing WST data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njl Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I think there's only one published source for 9mm WST data (copied above in that loadbooks data). You might also have a look at what I dug up several years ago at: https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/wst-9mm-and-moly-coated-lead-135g-data.1321163/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFlynn Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 I used to load WST 124gr and 147gr during the shortage a few years ago, but was told it could result in high pressure issues, so I've since switched to WSF and it works great for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 WST is terrific behind 135s and 147s, never loaded 124s with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazmaniac Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) Memphismechanic in australia we have run out of local powder as ADI decided to re engineer thier powders.... i have picked up some WST and shooting 9mm minor using 135 needing a pf of 125 I shoot IPSC any load data would be great Taz Edited February 20, 2020 by Tazmaniac More info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4n2t0 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) I'm not sure about 135's but the range for a 124gr bullet is 4.8gr - 5.4gr of WST. I've tested a 147gr bullet (thick plated) with 3.6gr - 4.0gr of WST (3.8gr = 130 PF). So that should put your approximate testing range at 3.8gr - 4.4gr with a 135gr bullet. Edited February 20, 2020 by 4n2t0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) I'm at 4.1grs wst with124 rn, fmj or tc. At 132 of out of 1911's and x5s Edited February 20, 2020 by jcc7x7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4n2t0 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, jcc7x7 said: I'm at 4.1grs wst with124 rn, fmj or tc. At 132 of out of 1911's and x5s 4.1gr of WST must be barely making PF with a 124gr FMJ, if at all. Edited February 20, 2020 by 4n2t0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Made it fine at a couple of area matches at 130+ Honestly was very surprised at the amounts you stated. But I guess that's why we should all own our own chronograph's I've got s second scale I'm going to pull out and check both side by side after supper tonight. I leave that powder measure set up all the time. I load 4.1 of WST for 40 , with 200 gr Bayou's and it makes 172PF in my Limited guns, so that measure never gets messed with other than to check it every couple of months to make sure it hasn't moved. It's always at 4.14-4.16grs with a 10 throw average. FWIW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmella Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) I used to run 4.2 wst with a 124 made 130+ Pf Edited February 21, 2020 by Shmella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4n2t0 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, jcc7x7 said: Made it fine at a couple of area matches at 130+ Honestly was very surprised at the amounts you stated. But I guess that's why we should all own our own chronograph's I've got s second scale I'm going to pull out and check both side by side after supper tonight. I leave that powder measure set up all the time. I load 4.1 of WST for 40 , with 200 gr Bayou's and it makes 172PF in my Limited guns, so that measure never gets messed with other than to check it every couple of months to make sure it hasn't moved. It's always at 4.14-4.16grs with a 10 throw average. FWIW What amounts very surprised you? The published data for a 124gr bullet? My chrono data of a thick plated 147gr bullet? Or the guesstimate on a range for a 135gr bullet? I'm just surprised that it wasn't hard to make PF with an FMJ. I'll have to try it sometime. P.S. My data was shot through a 4.12" barrel (SR9) which will make it a little slower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 When you stated 4.8-5.4 grs for a 124. But didn't realize you were stating the "published data" Any how it's all good and ALL OF US should be using this info with a grain of salt so to speak and starting low and working up with a chrono etc. My guns are all 5" bbl.'s, My wife's sig is 4 1/4 I think and it make 128 PF with the 4.1 grains of WST Anyhow everybody should start lower and work up with any load info!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazmaniac Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 One of our master grade shooters in perth has sent me a message over night that he uses 3.4gr oof wst with a moly lead 145gr to make pf.... we are only allowed to shoot 9mm in minor Thanks for the replies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) <deleted, wrong topic by mistake> Edited February 21, 2020 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 My old IDPA load from the 90's was same as Memphis posted. 135 gr laser cast, old school cast with lube, over 3.8 gr of WST,, OAL was in the 1.150 area IIRC. This was from a 4.25 Nowlin 1911 9mm barrel. Nowlins were a bit tight. was well over 125 pf at a couple IDPA majors chrono station. Was just getting into pistol reloading. Was trying to generate less smoke than TG or the old bullseye with the lubed bullets they were like shooting black powder at indoor ranges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) Avg 1054fps, ES27 SD9, PF 130, WST 4.1grs, 124 RMR TC Jacketed, S&B spp, 1.090 Chrono'd again today in two different 1911 9mm's 2nd one was 1 PF higher 20 rounds total in two 10 round strings, fired about 5 minutes apart. toggled back in forth on the string (comp elec, pro chrono) Ran three guns over it today and just toggled back to string one to shoot the 2nd set to 10 rounds. I checked the number between two sets and they didn't change within decimals Again this load has also made chrono stage at a couple of larger matches that checked ammo! Edited February 22, 2020 by jcc7x7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revofan Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 3.8gr of wst under a Blues 125gr gives me 125 PF out of a 6” barrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himurax13 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 4.2g with a Blue Bullet 125g TC gets me about 132 to 134 PF out of a Stock 2 with a 4.5" barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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