Waterfowl-widowmaker Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 After years of putting up with a mediocre trigger in my Glocks, I have finally found what I consider the absolute best on the market today. After spending hundreds of dollars on the big name aftermarket triggers, I have come to my final resting spot. It's the Arsenal Democracy "Switch" trigger. It came with a tuned and highly polished trigger bar, connector, ejector block and striker safety plunger. I went ahead and swapped the springs that came with it with Wolff competition spring kit. It instantly turned the mushy trigger I had gotten used to into a trigger better than in most factory 1911's. I know what most of you are thinking and I would have thought the same thing if I weren't holding it in my own hand. It has zero take up and to say it had an 1/8" of creep would be exaggerating. Just enough to allow the safety to be functional. It breaks as clean as my 2011 with almost no over travel. You will have to shoot a couple of hundred rounds through it to get used to it, it breaks that clean. According to my trigger pull gauge, it was breaking right around 2.75#. I'm not going to bash anyone's product, but it made all the other big name triggers seem like a stock Glock trigger when comparing them. It was well worth the money and then some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreGarciaTAT2 Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 I'm definitely gonna try one outSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got2beshooting Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 I am pretty happy with my Glock trigger. The only thing I did was change the springs with a zev spring kit with a connector and I polished all contact points. So for $35 and a little bit of elbow grease, it made quite a big difference. I do not have a trigger pull gauge but I would say it's at about 3.00#. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal82 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 The brass insert is interesting. Had this idea for many years to try to remove some of the slop from the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Scott Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 On 4/15/2017 at 3:29 PM, Waterfowl-widowmaker said: After years of putting up with a mediocre trigger in my Glocks, I have finally found what I consider the absolute best on the market today. After spending hundreds of dollars on the big name aftermarket triggers, I have come to my final resting spot. It's the Arsenal Democracy "Switch" trigger. It came with a tuned and highly polished trigger bar, connector, ejector block and striker safety plunger. I went ahead and swapped the springs that came with it with Wolff competition spring kit. It instantly turned the mushy trigger I had gotten used to into a trigger better than in most factory 1911's. I know what most of you are thinking and I would have thought the same thing if I weren't holding it in my own hand. It has zero take up and to say it had an 1/8" of creep would be exaggerating. Just enough to allow the safety to be functional. It breaks as clean as my 2011 with almost no over travel. You will have to shoot a couple of hundred rounds through it to get used to it, it breaks that clean. According to my trigger pull gauge, it was breaking right around 2.75#. I'm not going to bash anyone's product, but it made all the other big name triggers seem like a stock Glock trigger when comparing them. It was well worth the money and then some. What other triggers did you try? Why did you feel the need to swap in the Wolff parts? Thank you. I have a Glock project coming up and I am shopping parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) Minus connector of your brand preference. Polishing. Heavy trigger spring and lighter 4.5 striker spring ... if you feel so inclined. Invest the rest of your triggerjob fund into 2,000 rounds of ammo burned up in live fire practice. Best trigger kit for the Glock there is. Hands down. Every Glock GM that I've run into has been quite happy with a recipe very close to that. Edited April 18, 2017 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireman1776 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 After years of putting up with a mediocre trigger in my Glocks, I have finally found what I consider the absolute best on the market today. After spending hundreds of dollars on the big name aftermarket triggers, I have come to my final resting spot. It's the Arsenal Democracy "Switch" trigger. It came with a tuned and highly polished trigger bar, connector, ejector block and striker safety plunger. I went ahead and swapped the springs that came with it with Wolff competition spring kit. It instantly turned the mushy trigger I had gotten used to into a trigger better than in most factory 1911's. I know what most of you are thinking and I would have thought the same thing if I weren't holding it in my own hand. It has zero take up and to say it had an 1/8" of creep would be exaggerating. Just enough to allow the safety to be functional. It breaks as clean as my 2011 with almost no over travel. You will have to shoot a couple of hundred rounds through it to get used to it, it breaks that clean. According to my trigger pull gauge, it was breaking right around 2.75#. I'm not going to bash anyone's product, but it made all the other big name triggers seem like a stock Glock trigger when comparing them. It was well worth the money and then some. What other triggers have you tried for the Glock? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got2beshooting Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 I have used a friends 19 with a zev trigger in it and IMO it was one of the better ones out their. But I don't think they are production or CO legal. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireman1776 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 I have used a friends 19 with a zev trigger in it and IMO it was one of the better ones out their. But I don't think they are production or CO legal. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThe arsenal is not production legal either. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got2beshooting Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 The best thing to do if you are shooting production or carry optics IMO is to buy a spring kit, new connector, and then polish all the factory parts. Including the safety plunger. Basically anything that moves as a result of pulling the trigger. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpaw Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 1/8" of total trigger travel doesn't seem like much to still allow the firing pin block safety and drop safety to function. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 On 4/17/2017 at 10:50 PM, MemphisMechanic said: Minus connector of your brand preference. Polishing. Heavy trigger spring and lighter 4.5 striker spring ... if you feel so inclined. Invest the rest of your triggerjob fund into 2,000 rounds of ammo burned up in live fire practice. Best trigger kit for the Glock there is. Hands down. Every Glock GM that I've run into has been quite happy with a recipe very close to that. I didn't this and got an really good trigger. Then, because I'm the type that always wonders "what if", I wanted to try a custom trigger and knew I'd always be questioning if I was missing out. I live near Charlie Vannek so I called him up and met up with him and tired one of his classic triggers. I bought it. I like it and can feel a difference between mine and his. However, neither trigger will have any affect on the outcome of a match. If a trigger cost you a match win, wait...... it won't. Never mind. If you're good enough to win, the trigger isn't gonna matter because you've already checked the box labeled trigger control. You'll still have to keep with it but you've gotten past that point. Now, saying all that. While at his place, I got to dry fire all his glocks and the triggers in his open/limited guns where beyond belief. You couldn't (at least I couldn't) imagine a glock trigger could be that good! So, to the OP, I'd love to feel the trigger your talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsauerfan Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 seriously, good for you.as long as you're happy with the trigger feel you now experience in your gun, it's what really count. the best triggers i've ever tried are mine. well,not entirely mine; whatever the trigger assembly i've dropped in my limited guns, i've reworked them to extract the max out of them. i use ZEV tech ultimate but mod'ed angles and shapes . it gets me a 2.1lbs trigger weight break on the unit sitting in my 35, and 2.5 on another unit installed in my G22 all safeties intact ; and i'm a very happy camper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfowl-widowmaker Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 On 4/18/2017 at 7:45 AM, fireman1776 said: What other triggers have you tried for the Glock? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Zev, Glockstore, Vanek, Travis Haley Skimmer trigger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfowl-widowmaker Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 On 4/18/2017 at 2:01 PM, Southpaw said: 1/8" of total trigger travel doesn't seem like much to still allow the firing pin block safety and drop safety to function. It works, all safeties are fully functional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfowl-widowmaker Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 On 4/17/2017 at 9:32 PM, Patrick Scott said: What other triggers did you try? Why did you feel the need to swap in the Wolff parts? Thank you. I have a Glock project coming up and I am shopping parts. It comes with full power springs, the Wolff are reduced power. Makes for a lighter trigger pull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfowl-widowmaker Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 On 4/17/2017 at 10:50 PM, MemphisMechanic said: Minus connector of your brand preference. Polishing. Heavy trigger spring and lighter 4.5 striker spring ... if you feel so inclined. Invest the rest of your triggerjob fund into 2,000 rounds of ammo burned up in live fire practice. Best trigger kit for the Glock there is. Hands down. Every Glock GM that I've run into has been quite happy with a recipe very close to that. Well, by no means am in a GM status. But last year between practice, matches and work, I shot just over 19k rounds through a Glock. Other than those shooting production, about how many GM's shoot Glocks over a 2011? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpaw Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 4 hours ago, Waterfowl-widowmaker said: It works, all safeties are fully functional. Not saying I don't believe you, I'm just curious, what tests did you perform to ensure all safeties are functioning properly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onagoth Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 My G17 trigger is almost as smooth as my G34 trigger which has the Vogel production legal kit in it. All it took was around 25k rounds. but I can't really tell a difference between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ODP1911 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Forgive my ignorance, but what is the heavy trigger spring? is it the NY1/2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBP55 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 10 hours ago, ODP1911 said: Forgive my ignorance, but what is the heavy trigger spring? is it the NY1/2? No, it is in reference to a 6# trigger spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt1911 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 always cracks me up when people compare glock triggers to 1911/2011's... no glock trigger will be the same, the physics just arent there. Several different glock triggers ive had or felt were incredible improvements on oem, but apples still arent oranges. The arsenal trigger is dope as shit though, ill pick one up for kicks soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsauerfan Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 On 22/04/2017 at 6:46 AM, colt1911 said: always cracks me up when people compare glock triggers to 1911/2011's... no glock trigger will be the same, the physics just arent there. Several different glock triggers ive had or felt were incredible improvements on oem, but apples still arent oranges. The arsenal trigger is dope as shit though, ill pick one up for kicks soon! i'm wondering what set their trigger apart of the rest......seems like another '''tuned'''' trigger assembly to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsauerfan Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 On 21/04/2017 at 10:49 AM, ODP1911 said: Forgive my ignorance, but what is the heavy trigger spring? is it the NY1/2? the NY1 is 8lbs. the NY2 is 12lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdp88 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 The Edge from glocktriggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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