muncie21 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 I've been testing several different loads to shoot in my CZ SP01 this spring. I've started experimenting with 147 FP coated bullets from Bayou with VV N320 and found them to shoot very comfortably. I'm shooting mixed brass, so there are variations in case and OAL. My only concern with staying with this load is the depth that I need to seat the bullet to pass the plunk/spin test in my CZ. For the folks that shoot CZs and 147 bullets, what are your thoughts/recommendations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitty79 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 I have shot 7 different coated 147s from my Shadows. The best one for seating depth has been the Acme 147 flat points. I have to load those to 1.13. The Blue 147 flat point needs 1.12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta391 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 147 coated FP NLG IbejiHeads 3.3 Hp-38 Speer nickle cases 1.125 gives me 132 PF 900fps avg. out of my shadow custom. Very soft shooting load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 147 coated flat point SNS. 1.15 oal 3.2 titegroup. Loading shorter gave me just enough ftf's to screw up your match score and make you crazy. Have used that recipe with a compact and an 85 and 2 CTS LS's. Plunk test with that particular bullet was just a smidge past 1.16 depending on the particular gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLeeCZ Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) Also use SNS 147 HiTek NLG coated FPs. I can load out to almost 1.16" in all 4 of my CZs so i aim for 1.145" over 3.8gr WSF. Shoots well in all my 9s- Glocks, HK, Sig, STI, and CZs. Edited February 5, 2017 by JLeeCZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamge Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 I would recommend against loading long enough that you fail the plunk test. I've tried that and it lead to failure to fires when the gun occasionally doesn't go fully into battery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open17 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 147 Bayou coated. 3.4 N320, 1.145 OAL. Mixed brass, WSP primers. Makes 129-135 pf in 2 CZ's, 4 Glocks, 2 1911's and a M&P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aceyduce Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Bayou 147 coated. 3.1 e3. 1.145 OAL. Mixed brass, CCI primers. 134pf out of my CZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncie21 Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share Posted February 5, 2017 Thanks for the feedback! From the looks of it, we are all pretty much in the same ballpark with regard to powder charge and OAL. I was a bit concerned with case pressure due to the minimum amount of case space left when seating the bullet. Looks like there are folks that have experience making this work. I'll be extra cautious when seating to ensure I don't compress the powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 ream your barrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GringoBandito Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 I have been able to load xtreme 147's out to 1.130 and they pass the plunk test in the CZ's I have tested. It seems the ogive(sp) on coated bullets is wider on most of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompsoncustom Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 1 hour ago, rowdyb said: ream your barrel This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi_Im_Vinh Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) Xtreme 147gr plated bullets w/ 3.6gr Win-231 loaded to 1.155 out of my Shadow Custom ... soft/accurate load that I've ran for awhile. I'm actually able to load longer with these bullets ( 1.165) but since I load for my Shadow and my brothers Sp-01 I keep it at that length for both our guns . Edited February 9, 2017 by Hi_Im_Vinh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 13 hours ago, rowdyb said: ream your barrel Why? I'm loading to 1.15 with my stock barrels & have very little extra room in the magazines. I do not know of any reason why it would be a good idea to load longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 if you're shooting a plated or jacketed round nose, no need. it's been my experience though that shooting any truncated cone, hollow point or almost any coated psuedo round nose flat point require you to load very very short. running into issues like the OP stated. ream your barrel and this becomes a non issue. for $30 and less than 30 minutes of time you get a wonderful amount of freedom in developing and choosing loads. especially if you're shooting that load out of multiple guns and platforms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Makes sense, apparently a proven option if you find a need. For what it is worth the sns 147's I'm using at 1.15 are truncated cone, so that is something someone could play with if they preferred not to ream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRick Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 I load Xtreme 147s in various CZ/Tanfoglio. My P09 being the most picky. Requires me to load the shortest OAL from all others. I load 3.0gr of TG @ 1.10". It works on all my CZs/Tanfoglio no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrasam Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 I load 147 Xtreme RNs out to 1.15 regularly. I've gone to 1.165 with no problem. Like others have said bullet profile is the limiting factor. If you want to shoot a particular bullet at a particular length at which it doesn't want to fit then go the reaming route others have suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamge Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 8 hours ago, rowdyb said: if you're shooting a plated or jacketed round nose, no need. it's been my experience though that shooting any truncated cone, hollow point or almost any coated psuedo round nose flat point require you to load very very short. running into issues like the OP stated. ream your barrel and this becomes a non issue. for $30 and less than 30 minutes of time you get a wonderful amount of freedom in developing and choosing loads. especially if you're shooting that load out of multiple guns and platforms. The way I read the OP, he doesn't have an actual issue. Just a perception that going shorter is somehow bad. It probably isn't. Just go shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncie21 Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 36 minutes ago, adamge said: The way I read the OP, he doesn't have an actual issue. Just a perception that going shorter is somehow bad. It probably isn't. Just go shorter. True Adamge. No issues currently, however when I review tolerances against my reloading practices (mixed brass, different bullet vendors) I was a bit concerned (maybe cautious is a better word) about using this bullet/powder combo in a 9mm case- so I wanted to get input from the folks that shoot (and have more experience) more than I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I didn't have safety issues. I had qc and gun to gun compatibility issues. I didn't want a cz load a pcc load a glock load etc. I wanted a load. Making my cz take a longer load by reaming the barrel solved all those issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegionShooter Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 22 hours ago, rowdyb said: I didn't have safety issues. I had qc and gun to gun compatibility issues. I didn't want a cz load a pcc load a glock load etc. I wanted a load. Making my cz take a longer load by reaming the barrel solved all those issues. Did you do your own reaming or send it out? If you sent it out, where did you send it? I'm in the same boat with my Stock 2, and the go-to Tanfo guy is unavailable for several weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc90 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 1 hour ago, LegionShooter said: Did you do your own reaming or send it out? If you sent it out, where did you send it? I'm in the same boat with my Stock 2, and the go-to Tanfo guy is unavailable for several weeks. Pm me.. I can get it reamed for you . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitw Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 What rowdyb said, and why lock yourself into a specific bullet with a specific ogive? Get it to a smith who is familiar with the CZ short throat issue and for $30 or so get it reamed and not have to worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegionShooter Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 41 minutes ago, usmc90 said: Pm me.. I can get it reamed for you . PM inbound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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