okorpheus Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 How much difference does the bullet profile make? Loading for an M&P if that makes any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianKr Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I've never found any difference in performance in the gun when using truncated cone bullets in either .45 ACP or 9mm (as compared to RN). There is a difference on target though. The flat point punches a nice hole and the holes from them are clearly different. In local matches I inadvertently shot an unpasted target and since my holes were clearly seen the target was scored w/o reshooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdinga Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Cant prove this scientifically, but I believe the flat points take down steel better than round nose. Maybe a whisker more accurate in some of my guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitty79 Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 I prefer the holes FPs make in cardboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) Can I ask a newb question. I've never thought about it but can you use the same seating die setting for both RN and FP? You shouldn't have to adjust the die for OAL when switching between the two, correct? Edited May 27, 2016 by B_RAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 The point makes a bit of difference in the bearing length, but not much. I don't think you'll find much difference in how the two perform but get 100 of each and try it out. B_Rad - You can use the same die, some have reversible stems. My Dillion set has end for flat point and the other for round nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviSS Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Can I ask a newb question. I've never thought about it but can you use the same seating die setting for both RN and FP? You shouldn't have to adjust the die for OAL when switching between the two, correct? You can use the same die, but it will have to be adjusted between the two. They will have different coal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzShooter Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 RN will feed better and have less problems. You really won't notice a difference on energy displacement on the target. If you are waiting to verify the hits before going on to the next steel target you are just loosing time. Even when shooting my .45 I likes the reliability of 230 RN better than semi wadcutters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef15 Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Never had an issue with TC or flat point in 9mm or 45acp. Die setting will almost certainly be different. They do cut a slightly cleaner hole in cardboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Mitch Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Between the two, the ogive can make a big difference in available range of OAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolffy1876 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Been running RN in my M&P for no other reason then thats the box i checked. The feed fine. Now using them in my 1911 and no issue there either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodyAxon Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I use round nose because the flat points look weird to me. That is literally my reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Hepworth Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I find the rn feed well always...fn feed a little bumpy when the gun gets dirty. Feed ramp makes a difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwhpfan Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I asked the guy I buy bullets from (www.bnbcasting.com) which one since he sold both. He replied he wasn't 100% sure why but he sold 10x as many RN as FP. I figured all those shooters must be on to something so I've been buying RN ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BASE772 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Never had any problems with the FP's from SNS in any of my 9mm's. And like others said, they leave a nice hole that's easier to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okorpheus Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 Thanks for the replies. I've been loading FP, but have to load them pretty short for my M&P. I've been thinking of trying round nose to see if they would pass the plunk test with a little longer OAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheeljack Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 I've been working with 147gr bullets and that means long bullets. My pistol has a short leade so the shape of the bullet is important in my gun. It is not that a RN fits better than a FN, it's how the RN is shaped. Where is the ogive of the bullet. I have FN bullets that load longer than some RN. The shape of the RN is important. So is seating depth. The last Berry's catalog I received had a chart of their bullets with the bullet OAL and COL of the cartridge. Seating depth for a 9mm varied from .180 to .262. I think the maximum seating depth should be .300 because that's where the shell walls thicken and will misshape the bullet. Be sure you are not compressing the charge. So after all that, if you have a long leade and can load to the maximum length, probably any shape you like will load. Remember seating a bullet deeper increases the pressure. Have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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