jimbo61 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 I'm new to 1911's. When during the draw stroke should the safety be flipped off? While shooting a stage, should the safety ever be engaged? Like while moving or doing reloads? I know of one GM level shooter who engages the safety when moving between shooting positions. I'm just wondering if this is common practice. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreed911 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 I disengage mine on draw as habit. I don't reset until LAMR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 I like to disengage when the pistol is in front of me. The need to engage the safety when moving may depend on which sport you are talking about. IPSC rules have this: 8.5 Movement8.5.1 Except when the competitor is actually aiming or shooting at targets, all movement must be accomplished with the fingers visibly outside the trigger guard and the external safety should be applied.... (my emphasis) http://www.ipsc.org/pdf/RulesHandgun.pdf I read that as a strong recommendation to engage the safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansedgli Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Should does not mean must. I shoot IPSC. No-one I know activates the safety again during the COF on purpose. JJ Racaza posted the other day that he hits the mag release, activates the safety, reloads, then turns the safety off again on each reload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexgator Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 I disengage the safety when the pistol is in front of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo-Hombre Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 I'm new to 1911's. When during the draw stroke should the safety be flipped off? While shooting a stage, should the safety ever be engaged? Like while moving or doing reloads? I know of one GM level shooter who engages the safety when moving between shooting positions. I'm just wondering if this is common practice. Thanks! The most common practice I'm aware of is to disengage the safety as the gun is on its way up to your focal plane, or somewhere around mid chest. As far as re engaging the safety during the COF, none of the shooters I know do that. Not to say it isn't done, just unaware of it. Whatever it takes to keep from cooking one off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianKr Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 It's been awhile since I shot in SS division, but I trained myself for decades now, to reengage the safety when I'm not actively pressing the trigger. I don't even need to think about it anymore. It just happens automatically; click on/click off with my thumb riding the safety. Same thing with the finger out of the trigger guard, no thought required, the finger comes out automatically and moves to the frame of the gun. I try to do things the same way all the time to simplify them. So my safety comes off when I'm on target. It happens very rapidly as I more or less indicated above. Same automatic movement by my thumb as above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Flip it off coming up from the draw and leave it off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo61 Posted April 27, 2016 Author Share Posted April 27, 2016 Thanks for the replies. I've been dry firing, so I want to make sure I'm grooving a good technique. I'm flipping the safety off after clearing the holster, but before my hands come together. I also read about how JJ flips the safety on for reloads. Now that's impressive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarilynMonbro Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Flip it off coming up from the draw and leave it off I do it this way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleddog30 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Safety goes off when it's in front off me. Stays off for reloads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngeyes Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 I shoot SS. The safety goes on after I've loaded a barney on the make ready. It goes off at the draw. The safety stays off until the next stage after the load etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilBunniFuFu Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Off in front of me doesn't come on util LAMR. Interesting note is Manny Bragg will engage it when he uses his muzzle to push through a blocked port, Found out the reason at last years Sunshine State Games, gun came out of battery on a fellow squad mates gun and the light recoil spring didn't rechamber the round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo-Hombre Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Off in front of me doesn't come on util LAMR. Interesting note is Manny Bragg will engage it when he uses his muzzle to push through a blocked port, Found out the reason at last years Sunshine State Games, gun came out of battery on a fellow squad mates gun and the light recoil spring didn't rechamber the round. This is a very good point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2MoreChains Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Similar to what others have said, thumb safety comes off somewhere mid-draw. As far as flicking it on mid-stage, if I do its mainly an unconscious thing when hauling azz across a stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nahanshew89 Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 (edited) You could get one of those safetys that automatically re-engages every time you take your thumb off of it, then it would be a no brainer. Reload? Safety on. LAMR? Thumb on, rack, thumb off, safety on. Pretty neat. Edited April 28, 2016 by nahanshew89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric4069 Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 I disengage the safety when the pistol is in front of me. agree with this, when the gun is pointed forward, not while pointed at my leg. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreed911 Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 I disengage the safety when the pistol is in front of me. agree with this, when the gun is pointed forward, not while pointed at my leg. Eric At what point is the gun pointed at your leg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 You could get one of those safetys that automatically re-engages every time you take your thumb off of it, then it would be a no brainer. Reload? Safety on. LAMR? Thumb on, rack, thumb off, safety on. Pretty neat. My new open gun was designed primarily for 3 gun has the LSI automatic safety. After spending some time on the range with it I found I like having the safety on during movement and reloads. Once I get my lazy butt in gear, I plan on installing one on my USPSA open gun too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nahanshew89 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 (edited) You could get one of those safetys that automatically re-engages every time you take your thumb off of it, then it would be a no brainer. Reload? Safety on. LAMR? Thumb on, rack, thumb off, safety on. Pretty neat. My new open gun was designed primarily for 3 gun has the LSI automatic safety. After spending some time on the range with it I found I like having the safety on during movement and reloads. Once I get my lazy butt in gear, I plan on installing one on my USPSA open gun too. Yeah, they're pretty cool, I'd like to get one, but Idk where to find them. Edited April 29, 2016 by nahanshew89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 You could get one of those safetys that automatically re-engages every time you take your thumb off of it, then it would be a no brainer. Reload? Safety on. LAMR? Thumb on, rack, thumb off, safety on. Pretty neat. My new open gun was designed primarily for 3 gun has the LSI automatic safety. After spending some time on the range with it I found I like having the safety on during movement and reloads. Once I get my lazy butt in gear, I plan on installing one on my USPSA open gun too. Yeah, they're pretty cool, I'd like to get one, but Idk where to find them. Glenn with Lone Star Innovations makes and sells them. All of his thumb safeties are also available with a set screw adjustment for sear engagement. Benefits are its fast to install, no filing needed to fit (that could also result in a destroyed safety if too much is taken out) and if you ever want to move it to another gun, heat up the loctite and adjust the set screw for the new gun. http://www.lonestarinnovations.com/ for contact information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nahanshew89 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 You could get one of those safetys that automatically re-engages every time you take your thumb off of it, then it would be a no brainer. Reload? Safety on. LAMR? Thumb on, rack, thumb off, safety on. Pretty neat. My new open gun was designed primarily for 3 gun has the LSI automatic safety. After spending some time on the range with it I found I like having the safety on during movement and reloads. Once I get my lazy butt in gear, I plan on installing one on my USPSA open gun too. Yeah, they're pretty cool, I'd like to get one, but Idk where to find them. Glenn with Lone Star Innovations makes and sells them. All of his thumb safeties are also available with a set screw adjustment for sear engagement. Benefits are its fast to install, no filing needed to fit (that could also result in a destroyed safety if too much is taken out) and if you ever want to move it to another gun, heat up the loctite and adjust the set screw for the new gun. http://www.lonestarinnovations.com/ for contact information. How much is it? I'm a cheap bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 I'm old and I have a bad memory. That and I'm a cheap bast**d too. I'm pretty sure it was under $100 for the ambi stainless steel model with wide paddles on each side. Lots of options available on paddle size. When I got mine I thought others might be interested so posted some information and pictures here on the Enos forum. http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=225120 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 At what point is the gun pointed at your leg? A pistol in a holster, or just coming out of the holster either points at your leg or foot, or pretty near. It is so near that I don't want ANYTHING to go wrong. Disengaging when the weak hand gets on the pistol, or even later, doesn't waste any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo61 Posted April 29, 2016 Author Share Posted April 29, 2016 It feels slow to me to flip the safety off after my hands come together, but then again, I'm new to 1911's, so maybe I need to work on it more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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