brisix Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I see the advantages to running an SBR in PCC. My only concern is travel with an SBR to major matches or to local matches across state lines to Illinois. My question is it worth running an SBR and having to deal with legal hassles that come with traveling interstate with a SBR(s)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I won't do it just for a PCC match or maybe two all season. If I ever go SBR it will be to suppress someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thermobollocks Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 If you're going somewhere that doesn't allow them or if you're not able to put in for the requisite permissions, maybe have a backup upper you can fall back on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaunk Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 I think it'd be fun for local matches but I'm not sure I'd go to the trouble of the out of state matches. It's a new division so I'd like to see some of the kinks worked out before I get all geared up for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash74 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Do it, filing the paperwork for out of state is easy. Besides, running a pistol caliber SBR suppressed is too much fun. It almost gets "hollywood" quiet with subsonic rounds. Too bad you can't run them suppressed in competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterDrew Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 (edited) I'd definitely sbr a PCC to eventually suppress, but definitely not for sport shooting. Adds too much trouble for travel and I don't see the benefit on performance to justify it ... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited March 29, 2016 by shooterDrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMedic Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) Can someone explain to me how much of a hassle it is to get your SBR out of state? I haven't done it yet so I'm curious for myself, but I thought that 5320.20's were approved once you submit in eForms? Edited March 30, 2016 by DocMedic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterDrew Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Can someone explain to me how much of a hassle it is to get your SBR out of state? I haven't done it yet so I'm curious for myself, but I thought that 5320.20's were approved once you submit in eForms? It may be fairly easy but I have no desire to risk a federal felony if I have a colossal brain fart and forget to do proper paperwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Freeman Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 No hassle at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitty79 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I don't want to need to do NFA to be competitive in an optic division. Should be 1 division, non-SBR, red dots allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmnielsen Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Do it, filing the paperwork for out of state is easy. Besides, running a pistol caliber SBR suppressed is too much fun. It almost gets "hollywood" quiet with subsonic rounds. Too bad you can't run them suppressed in competition. Why can't you run them suppressed in competition? I've run my 5.56 SBR suppressed in competitions plenty of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davsco Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Timer has hard time picking up 223 suppressed so surely harder with pcc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmnielsen Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Have the sensitivity adjusted, or get the timer next to the ejection port. That still doesn't answer my question as to why you "cant" run them suppressed in competition. Is it written in a rule book somewhere or? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brisix Posted March 31, 2016 Author Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) Have the sensitivity adjusted, or get the timer next to the ejection port. That still doesn't answer my question as to why you "cant" run them suppressed in competition. Is it written in a rule book somewhere or? Current provisional rules for PCC prohibit use of suppressor. Edited March 31, 2016 by brisix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bthoefer Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Have the sensitivity adjusted, or get the timer next to the ejection port. That still doesn't answer my question as to why you "cant" run them suppressed in competition. Is it written in a rule book somewhere or? Current provisional rules for PCC prohibit use of suppressor. It's virtually guaranteed that the timer is going to miss shots on a suppressed PCC, especially when you think about ports and odd shooting positions we end up in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmnielsen Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Yes it will miss shots, who cares as long as it gets the last shot? Which you can do by getting the shot timer near the ejection port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHI Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 In the shooters way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadeslade Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Do it. It is the raison d'être for pistol caliber carbines. Suppressed or not. Simple to ask permission. If a state has a rule, then that is a problem. From an ATF standpoint they just want to know where it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrett Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Can someone explain to me how much of a hassle it is to get your SBR out of state? I haven't done it yet so I'm curious for myself, but I thought that 5320.20's were approved once you submit in eForms?5320.20 is currently unavailable through eforms. It's paper only for the time being. From an ATF standpoint they just want to know where it is.It really doesn't even do that for them. I've currently got approved forms for half a dozen different states. So "where" are they right now?From a practical standpoint, it's not much hassle. ATF will approve them for up to a 1-year date range, and for multiple trips. So each year you file for any state you think you may want to visit. Even if you're not sure, go ahead and fill out the form for that one too. It doesn't cost you anything more than an extra couple of pieces of paper. Just remember to send them in early enough. I'm currently waiting on another set that I sent in a month ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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