jnr88 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 (edited) Dan Wesson was far more reasonable in their cost for a new upper for either a PM9 or a 0 top for a PM7. JMO but a better gun to start with. Edited January 17, 2016 by jnr88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Thunder Posted January 16, 2016 Author Share Posted January 16, 2016 uspsa is to small a market for them to address Might help our cause a bit more if IDPA would recognize 40 S&W/10mm in their CDP division. Still don't understand that decision. Both/either EASILY make/exceed major power factor with virtually ANY factory load yet they're relegated to ESP? Not out to turn this into a USPSA versus IDPA argument (plenty of that going on already), but the savings to the shooter would apply to those who shoot IDPA as well. Maybe if the manufacturers would apply a bit of pressure to force the issue ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trini Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 How many SS 1911 in 40 S&W did Springfield make years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimcrew Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 It would be nice but it's not going to happen, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Thunder Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 And the final new Springfield Armory product for 2016 is ... not a 40 S&W Range Officer. Oh well, another year goes by, another opportunity missed, a dream unfulfilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quack Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) they make the EMP in 40, so i dont see why they couldn't make a RO in 40. The new EMP-4 will also be available in 40 too, so maybe next year if people keep asking for it? Edited January 17, 2016 by Quack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apexer Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 And the final new Springfield Armory product for 2016 is ... not a 40 S&W Range Officer. Oh well, another year goes by, another opportunity missed, a dream unfulfilled. I opened their page this morning hoping it would be the .40 as well, but no.... I think they are really missing the boat by not making a .40. Heck, even if they only sell to the uspsa crowd, they would still sell thousands a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimcrew Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) You people are funny; quit dreaming and go have a custom .40 built. SA will NOT make one outside of the custom shop - ever! Edited January 17, 2016 by Rimcrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 How many SS 1911 in 40 S&W did Springfield make years ago? Hello: I know Springfield has made 4 factory run 40 S&W pistols. I have two of the four. They made Stainless loaded, Trophy match Armory coat, Trophy Match stainless and a very rare Mil Spec standard parkerized. I have the loaded and Mil Spec. Still looking for a Trophy Match in stainless. You could have a smith make a top end for your 9mm lower and it would be cheaper than Springfield would charge. That is what I am doing right now. I don't think Springfield will mass produce a 40 Range Officer or Range Officer Operator unless they get a big order for them. They sell more 9mm and 45acp pistols to keep everyone happy. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apexer Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Maybe we should all drop a line to lipsey's. They got that 9mm operator built..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Thunder Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 If I may be permitted a bit of a thread drift here ... My teammates and I learned years ago that if you don't dare to dream there will be no vision. Without a vision there will be no plan. Without a plan there will be no action. Without action there will be no hope. Making our wishes known isn't what I'd call an exercise in foolishness. The reasons for a Range Officer in 40 are valid ( I won't rehash them here) and I believe Springfield could corner the market given the present alternatives available to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbopower18 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Anyone at SHOT confirm the new releases from SA? I also would be very tempted in a RO in 40!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJones Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Thunder Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 And yet, somehow I pictured you being much taller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midvalleyshooter Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 How about if SA would offer a complete upper in .40 S&W that would fit the RO or Loaded models? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Thunder Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 How about if SA would offer a complete upper in .40 S&W that would fit the RO or Loaded models? Yeah, we've pretty much already explored that possibility, but presently the Custom Shop is the only alternative ... at a cost prohibitive to the budget shooter. If they'd come up with a conversion it wouldn't be much more to produce the whole gun. A new shooter would still have to buy a gun THEN add the cost of a conversion on top of that. I'm not sure they'd be willing to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Hello: Lipsey is going to make a 10mm Operator so that may be an option with just a barrel change. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Hello: Lipsey is going to make a 10mm Operator so that may be an option with just a barrel change. Thanks, EricI know some people already do it, but is there any reason to not just 40 through a 10mm barrel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Thunder Posted January 22, 2016 Author Share Posted January 22, 2016 Hello: Lipsey is going to make a 10mm Operator so that may be an option with just a barrel change. Thanks, EricI know some people already do it, but is there any reason to not just 40 through a 10mm barrel? How will the cost of the 10mm Operator compare to the Range Officer? Do we have any estimates/guesstimates on this yet? You're always going to be better off with the cartridge being able to headspace on the case mouth rather than being held in place by the extractor. Accuracy especially. Think back to the original 38 Super headspacing on the rim versus later versions which headspaced on the case mouth. Now factor in the possibility of ANY wiggle room with a 40 case being held in place by the extractor and you may also see inconsistent ignition with really light trigger pulls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1911A1 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I'm going to say the Lipsey Springfield Range Officer will be around $2000 based on the cost of the Warren Tactical which is similar and out of Springfield Custom Shop which I'm sure the Lipsey will be built there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Hello: The Lipsey 9mm street price is $1400. The RO Operator is $850 for the 9mm. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Thunder Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 Hello: The Lipsey 9mm street price is $1400. The RO Operator is $850 for the 9mm. Thanks, Eric Yeah, I was kind of afraid of that. Add the cost of having a new barrel fit to the Lipsey and you're looking at twice the price of a Range Officer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midvalleyshooter Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Lipsey 10 MM, check around the 4 minute mark in this video: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Thunder Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 Lipsey 10 MM, check around the 4 minute mark in this video: And yet another obviously blatant attempt to hijack this thread! It's perfectly clear to everyone that 10mm has absolutely nothing to do with 40 S&W. Well, maybe they do use the same diameter bullet. And maybe some people do load 40 out to 10mm length. But, other than that Mrs. Lincoln ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1911A1 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Yes, but the girl in the video is so cute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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