Losing dot on draw

[Hi-Power Jack]

Great !!!

Don't forget to try some weak hand shots from the draw,

and some awkward positions.

[blacklab]

Did a little dry fire today. I think having a mag full of dummy rounds might help. I was also thinking about rushing the draw. Since it was pointed out to me, I'm a little less eager to go too fast. (Clint Eastwood makes it look so easy) I do see a little more consistency. I just hope this holds true when there' s 40 people standing there watching me this weekend, I think that may have a little to do with it too. Thanks for everyone's input. I was also wondering, how long do you dry fire? After about 15 to 20 min. my arms get tired and the dot starts to disappear again.

Edited September 18, 2015 by blacklab

[my00wrx1]

Do you get nervous or feel the adrenaline running before you shoot a stage at a match?

This can disrupt your normal thought patterns and pre-stage routine, effect movement or even give you the shakes.

The bigger the match the worse it can get.

[BeerBaron]

10 min is enough df for me. 15 max. Any longer and I lose focus a bit.

[ParaLarry]

After load & make ready, turn off your ear pro, wiggle your toes and fingers while waiting for the beep, and the crowd will go away.

Sent from my reloading bench using Tapatalk

[ParaLarry]

...fingers..,

Edited September 20, 2015 by ParaOrdnanceLarry

[elguapo]

You should talk to the first guy on this vid to see how he fixed it

[blacklab]

Today went waaaaaaaay better. Thanks for everyone's advice. I took the draw a little slower and my times were faster.

ParaOrdnanceLarry, funny you mentioned the finger and toe thing. I found my self anticipating the beep way too much, and it made me want to rush the draw. After I made ready I started to wiggle my toes to take my mind off the timer. Helped a lot.

[ChefGierke]

I have a Glock 34 MOS. It has a Slide ride RMR. Any advice for finding that dot. I did okay on this last Sunday. First time ever using it i finished 17 of 42 overall. But on targets that were close I just kinda Pointed and prayed! haha the rmr is amazing just finding that damm dot for distance shots took what seemed like forever! Maybe I just need more practice with it as I said it was my first time shooting it at all with the RMR on it. Any advice for that would be greatly appreciated

[JMike]

Dry fire practice. Do the first 12 drills in Anderson's "Refinement & Repetition".

[BritinUSA]

Its just dry-fire. Pick a point on a wall and stay focused on that point while you draw the gun, only your arms should move, keep your head still. Do that for an hour and you'll get it.

Then pick a different spot at a different height or distance and do it again. Repeat strong-hand only and transfers to weak-hand. Repetition will burn it in and it doesn't use up any ammo.

[bigboy69]

My problem is when I switch the gun to weak hand. Good mother of god do i have to do the open gun bobble to find the dot.

[CHA-LEE]

The majority of the shooters I see with sight acquisition issues are causing the issue by bobbing their head down to the sights during the draw verses keeping their head still and bringing the sights to their eye.

Watch the below video of Max Michelle doing a draw, and two reloads all in the same string. I like this video because it shows his head and body position from three difference camera angles (Front, Back and Side). Now the hard part, IGNORE THE SHOOTING in the video. Instead focus on his head position verses the mount and presentation of the gun. You will notice that his head is stationary on the draw and reloads, with the only exception being the last reload since he has to bend at the waist a little bit to the right in order to access the second mag. Other than that his head is totally stationary during the draw, while shooting, and while reloading.

[CHA-LEE]

This is another good video to watch on the draw with Ron Avery as the instructor. Once again, watch the position of Ron's head while the does the draw. Then watch his student's head. The student is bobbing his head down to the sights every time. Bobbing your head down to the sights is a big time waster and makes it a lot harder to acquire the sights. Verses simply bringing the gun and sights up to your eye.

[CHA-LEE]

OR............. You can be a Boss like Taran and simply shoot from the hip and not even use the sights.

[TaranTactical]

OR............. You can be a Boss like Taran and simply shoot from the hip and not even use the sights.

Sights are overrated.

Except ours.

Buy our sights.

[benos]

That was some SICK ASS shooting by both of those guys on the plate rack!

[blacklab]

Ok......After watching these videos and watching a video of me shooting, I think I want to crawl under a rock and hide in shame. But there was things to be learned from them.

[Posvar]

I had the same thing happen when I went from the SIg P320 plastic gun to my Shadow. Empty mag makes a huge difference in weight and speed when it is coming up from the draw. I was overreaching everything with the extra weight and especially so when I was practicing with an empty gun and then shooting in a match. The switch from a polymer gun to a heavy gun has taken a while to get used to when talking about site acquisition.

[StraightSh00ter]

I noticed that different grips on the gun are affected differently by tension in my hands. For example, when I had my left thumb riding firmly on the frame, changes in left hand tension would move the muzzle around. A similar thing happened (but worse) when I shot with my left index finger on the front of the trigger guard. Tension in your hands can very easily change between practice and timed fire.

My grip today is less influenced by hand tension/pressure, and is now showing me that tension still exists in other places (arms/shoulders) when I try to 'go fast'.