Nathanb Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Never mind I had no idea who jake was so I just watched his videos. Jesus christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a matt Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) Lol, that man has a trigger finger for days. Bad fast.. Edited December 12, 2015 by a matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RippinSVT Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I had a malfunctioning Open Glock recently that decided it wanted to have a "double trouble" trigger (firing on pull and release). Prior to fixing it I decided to do a few Bill Drills. Pretty sure they were like 1.2 sec when I could control it. lol. Realistically, from surrender, I'm talking 1.9ish sec if I'm shooting well to do all A's, more like 2.2 on average days. Usually have .15-.17 splits, but I'm only so-so on the draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunBugBit Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Never mind I had no idea who jake was so I just watched his videos. Jesus christ He shows his USPSA member number so a lookup of that also gives you a quick idea of who/what he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) For what it's worth, I'm nothing special. Don't yet have any real great wins. I'm just a guy that likes to shoot that put a pretty large amount of work into it. My first classification in IDPA was marksman, my first classification in USPSA was C, and I spent over 2 years in B. Edited December 14, 2015 by Jake Di Vita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onepocket Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share Posted December 15, 2015 I have been shooting the 25 yard bill drill average time around 3.20-3.40's. If you have not done this you should give it a try. All A's is tough and under 3 seconds for me is super tough. Let me know how it goes if you try it. My goal is high 2 seconds consistant with just a few C's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunBugBit Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I've tried the Bill Drill and other drills at longer distances and of course more time is necessary. Not that much time though, and when coming back to the shorter distances after 25-yard versions of the drills, things are different in a good way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) I just found footage of my only bill drill I clocked or ran on the timer that I could look back at I ran a 2.46 for that match it was a match high as well. One other person broke into the 2s but was down points next closest was 3.22. This is definitely a small pond sample though I'm sure if I tried it more often and practiced it I could get sub 2s but under one is eye popping to me. Edited December 23, 2015 by Nathanb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilkMyDuds Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 My best is 1.80 @ 7 yards all alphas. Usually in the 1.9 to 2 seconds range. The time does go faster in Summer and slows down a bit in Winter. Sent from my GT-N7105 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunBugBit Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 1.94s, surrender start, 7 yards, all As, 5" 1911 shooting .45 230gr 170-ish PF. Hope to get some faster than that on video soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebwake Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I may be wrong but I thought I saw Jerry on one of the many shows he is on/has been on do it. I think it was like 1.01 but it was right at a second. I'll have to start looking around again but that's the only time I think I saw something like that. There is the Cowboy shooter, Cisko, who did something like that but he did it in under a second for 5 or 6 balloons. He was also shooting that super fine bird shot and not using the trigger. He used a glove and each finger manipulated the SA hammer. Impressive all the same though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris iliff Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) I think most people with a G on their card could do it from the low ready without too much trouble. Probably a whole bunch of Ms too.Hmmm, low ready in under a second. So, exactly pointed at the base of the 7 yard target?For some reason, I find this interesting and will post my times when I get it done. Out of practice M. Edited January 27, 2016 by Chris iliff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadyscott999 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 1.45 is my PR. I can consistently hit 1.55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onepocket Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 Is that from low ready Shady? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadyscott999 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Is that from low ready Shady? No. That is with a .75 ish draw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 now we're talking. 1.45 is smoking. I can manage 2 shots in under second. haha. was doing some draw and first shot practice with the production gun and got down to .92 draw and 2 shots (80 draw and a 12 split). That's still double action first shot. Not sure i can do much better with the open gun to be honest. Still I'm at best an 'average' shotter. Guys like scott that can rip 1.45s give me hope that 1 second is not outside the realm of what's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunBugBit Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 1 second would be possible with a 0.5 second draw (start signal to first shot) and 0.10 second splits. Sure, no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a matt Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 1 second would be possible with a 0.5 second draw (start signal to first shot) and 0.10 second splits. Sure, no problem. Under .7 draw I can do but I have never been able to pull less than a .14 split on occasion average is nice slow .18. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I honestly don't think splits hold back stage performance much. I can rip 12 splits pretty happily even with the production shadows or stock 2 I shoot but I think for most time is left behind on transitions. i know when I work on transitions stage performance improves. I don't see any big gain from awesome fast splits except that 1) I feel good and, 2) I get the odd crappy hit.... yeah we figured the 0.5 draw and 5 X 10 splits would do it. I think it's probably right at the edge of what is possible but I certainly wouldn't say it's impossible. We looked before at some of the guys who shoot steel challenge who can rip bullshit fast surrender draws. and if we go with the modern version of the drill (as shown in the bill wilson video where he's teaching the drill) as being hands by sides I'm sure there's guys who can do 0.5 draws. I certainly know guys who can rip 10 splits and I know some guys who rip the odd 8 split. So maybe the perfect run is more like a 0.6 draw and 5 X 0.8 splits? anyone got max michels number? I reckon he could give it a crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunBugBit Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) Unless I change divisions, I'll have to get by with 0.18 as my "typical best" split time and build around that. Whether it's my gun's cycling tempo or my grip or my eyes or all of the above, the 0.18 split is my current outer limit for tracking the sights and staying tight on target. My start-signal-to-first-A-hit time can be better. I've gotten it under 1 second in one-shot and two-shot 7-yard drills but it hasn't shown up in a full Bill Drill yet. A current live-fire goal is to get a 1.8s Bill Drill and then be able to do that consistently. I have video'd myself so I know that what feels fast for me actually looks kind of slow. My fastest dry-fire draw is 0.7; I have tried quite hard to beat a 0.6 par time, not happening yet. A tenth of a second can seem like a yawning chasm to cross. I'm still in my first year of competing so I expect I'll progress past these limitations as I continue to work. Edited February 11, 2016 by GunBugBit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a matt Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 If I change divisions I'll be backing up, I'm already in Open. Lol just have the slow triggerfinger. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onepocket Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share Posted February 11, 2016 I will see if I can get in touch with Max. If he could pull this off with his new production gun it would look awesome on YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I don't think there is anyone capable of running .08 splits with a production gun. I'd be very surprised to see it. I've only shot one at .08 in my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onepocket Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share Posted February 11, 2016 Jake do you think anyone can do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I think it is possible but would be incredibly difficult. I don't think there is anyone right now that can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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