daves_not_here Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Hi guys A buddy of mine has a Shadowspo1 and his RHS safety keeps falling out. I have stripped the firearm and noticed nothing suspicious at all. The weapon has only had about 4000 rounds through it and is still like new. I did notice that only the LHS safety comes with a spring on the detent plunger and nothing on the RHS plunger. I followed up on youtube and see that that is correct. Do i just replace the RHS plunger and see what happens? Has anyone had this problem before? It does sound like you're missing the RHS plunger which is more of a "keeper" for the safety. Professor Atlas goes over this. http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=191773 DNH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swhiteh3 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I'm starting to have this issue with my CZ75 SP01 Shadow Custom. I've already contacted Scott Perman for one of this springs. One thing I noticed is that the safety has a bunch of "ambiguous freeplay" before it completely locks in the safe position. When I contact the safety, usually with the meat of my support side first thumb joint, I don't fully lock it up - I just shove it up enough to interfere with the guns operation. As soon as I move my thumb, the safety usually drops back down into the FIRE position. Looking at how the safety functions, there is a pie-shaped pad on the safety arm that rotates underneath the sear arm. (I hope I'm using the right terminology) If you re-shaped the pie-shaped pad, you could make it so the safety only engages when the safety lever is fully engaged & locked, by making the pie-shaped piece smaller. Don't change the "diameter / radius" of the pie, just close up the angle / number of degrees of the pie piece by removing material at the leading edge. Basically, I want the safety to still function, but only when it is fully in the SAFE position. (I have a sketch, but I can't manage to put up a picture. The REPLY window keeps locking up every time I try.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorfish Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I've already contacted Scott Perman for one of this springs. Link to Perman's website that sells the CZ safety springs: http://www.dsperman.com/products/CZSpring/CZSpring.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdave24 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 The Right and Left safety detents on the Shadow are different (same for Tactical Sport). The Right safety detent (orientation is looking through the sights) does not have a spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukez Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I have been using my accushadow for 3 gun, and so I left the regular safeties on the gun to make it easy to engage the safety even though it is somewhat uncomfortable.. But I will say as someone mentioned above.. I used the Scott Speerman extra power safety springs.. and its much harder to accidentally engage it. But it is also a very nice positive engagement when you do engage it on purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I use the slim D safeties and find I have way less issues in accidentally hitting them in an unintended direction. I also get less grip interference as well. Only down side is it is a smaller place to try and use the safety as a ledge for your thumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gng4life Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Another vote here for the Perman springs! Talked to Scott, he was awesome to deal with, got it going right away. I had the springs in two days. Installed them and wow, what a difference! It feels more positive but I was hesitant that it would stop me from accidentally engaging the safety. After 200 dryfire draws, no problems at all. However, just being the caution guy I am, just ordered the thin safety set and will be putting that on soon also. This is going on an Accu Shadow that is used in USPSA Production. If you don't have the Perman springs, you are really missing out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmob50 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rchaas Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 (edited) I am a leftie fwiw. Occasional inadvertent safety engagements did occur until I installed thin Rami style safeties. Never think about it any longer. Edited May 15, 2015 by rchaas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnote Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I've already contacted Scott Perman for one of this springs. Link to Perman's website that sells the CZ safety springs: http://www.dsperman.com/products/CZSpring/CZSpring.html so basically its a stronger spring to hold the detent in place thus decreasing potential unwanted activation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bockerSV Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share Posted May 16, 2015 To put more force on the detent which in turn requires more force to click on/off the safety, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himurax13 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 (edited) The cheapest option is to buy the extra power safety detent springs. Another option is to use the tumbler style extended SA safeties so that you have two sets of springs, one for each side. You can use the extra power springs on those as well. You will need to trim the left hand safety to clear the slide stop though. Edited May 16, 2015 by himurax13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aric Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I shoot with my thumb on the saftey so it can't pop up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gng4life Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Here is a follow-up to the safety issue. Got in the thin safety and fitted it last night. Wow - those things are thin!! It was strange, it took longer to fit the "D" end of the spindle to the RH safety lever than anything else. You would think they would be a close fit already but nada. I can see where it would be easy to screw up, you have to get the flat part of the "D" correct or you lever will be off. Anyway, it's all fitted and is running great! Loving this safety and the Perman springs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGus Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 (edited) I just fit two pairs of thin safeties on my Accu Shadow's last night. Took about 20 minutes for each gun. And that was taking my time doing some minor filing. All you need is a file and some calipers. I was accidentally bumping up the larger stock safeties up just enough to lock the hammer on a few occasions. May not seem like a big deal until you do that a couple times on a classifier. Here is a video that someone posted on YouTube that I found helpful. Edited June 4, 2015 by JGus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGus Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 And this post was helpful on where to file. http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=62265.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gng4life Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Yeah, that's about right, took me about 30 minutes. I tend to go slow and check a lot since I have screwed up so many parts - especially safeties (mostly 1911 type). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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