ogiebb Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) I wish Matt Cheely would make some Steel Comps i really like his design but i never liked Titanium. i would buy 2 in a heartbeat.. Edited October 28, 2014 by ogiebb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flack jacket Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Someone told me the best compensator is: Then again, I only use Trubor T2.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWLAZS Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) I think Matt has plans to do a run of steel comps. If you are interested in one let him know. Edited October 28, 2014 by AWLAZS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogiebb Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I think Matt has plans to do a run of steel comps. If you are interested in one let him know. Thanks will email hom now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman2733 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 I think Matt has plans to do a run of steel comps. If you are interested in one let him know. Thanks will email hom now. Any word back from him on this? I too am interested in running his comp but not a fan of Ti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Cheely Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 I think Matt has plans to do a run of steel comps. If you are interested in one let him know. Thanks will email hom now. Any word back from him on this? I too am interested in running his comp but not a fan of Ti I have some stainless stock that's waiting on machine time. I'll have them done in the next couple of weeks. Working on scope mounts at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Cheely Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 I suppose I will add my 2 cents while I'm here. What are we trying to accomplish with the comp? Keep the muzzle down and reduce recoil. How do you do that? Surfaces that the gas runs into relativity perpendicular to the bore will reduce the energy transferred to the slide thus reducing recoil, and the mass and velocity of the gas going up & out will push the muzzle down. Unfortunately it's very easy to do too much of both of these in the search of "the best/flattest comp out there". It's all a balancing act. Remove too much energy with a "brake" type of a comp and the gun doesn't run well. It takes a certain amount of energy to cycle the slide, and you need some more on top of that to make it reliable in all instances. To much comp pushing the barrel down and you get a dot that first tracks down, then up, and then back down again, or just wiggles all over the place. I just installed a "not to be named comp" that was so effective it blew the muzzle down when you pulled the trigger, basically impossible to shoot. On the other hand, I've shot short guns that were so violent and flat it was more like the dot exploded when you pulled the trigger. Now where did my shot go again? We're trying to make the dot track predictably and that usually means as straight up and down as possible (usually ends up being up and to right right a bit). It's all a balancing act. In addition to that is what YOU like in a comp. I prefer something with a little more lift, I find it much easier to call shots. Heck, look at the setup Max uses, it's a Trubor with a nearly full weight slide. YOU might like something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman2733 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 I think Matt has plans to do a run of steel comps. If you are interested in one let him know.Thanks will email hom now. Any word back from him on this? I too am interested in running his comp but not a fan of Ti I have some stainless stock that's waiting on machine time. I'll have them done in the next couple of weeks. Working on scope mounts at the moment. Matt since this might be info for others have you had any shooters have issues with slower burning powder such as 3n38 with your Ti comp? I have read of somr people reporting that the slower powders will eat up Ti comps pretty fast any truth to that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Cheely Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Matt since this might be info for others have you had any shooters have issues with slower burning powder such as 3n38 with your Ti comp? I have read of somr people reporting that the slower powders will eat up Ti comps pretty fast any truth to that? I've never had a comp wrecked due to powder erosion. I've shot Ti comps for every open gun I've ever had & never even saw signs of it. Had a gun I built with 100k+ rounds in for a rebarrel due to the rifling being mostly gone, we replaced the barrel, but kept the Ti comp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a matt Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 some really good info here. thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelGj Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 We're trying to make the dot track predictably and that usually means as straight up and down as possible (usually ends up being up and to right right a bit). It's all a balancing act. In addition to that is what YOU like in a comp. I prefer something with a little more lift, I find it much easier to call shots. Heck, look at the setup Max uses, it's a Trubor with a nearly full weight slide. YOU might like something different. What Power Factor would you recommend for your TI Comp ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rishii Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Matt I've had 2 ti comp made by another gunsmith, I liked how the gun handled, but both of them cracked Have yours had any issues And do you run any barrel porting Thanks Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 We're trying to make the dot track predictably and that usually means as straight up and down as possible (usually ends up being up and to right right a bit). It's all a balancing act. In addition to that is what YOU like in a comp. I prefer something with a little more lift, I find it much easier to call shots. Heck, look at the setup Max uses, it's a Trubor with a nearly full weight slide. YOU might like something different. What Power Factor would you recommend for your TI Comp ?? I'm not Matt but I run his Open guns with his latest Ti Comp Exclusively. Like most comps his prefer a little more gas before they really kick in. I found my gun handled best at about 174-175 PF. That was with MG 121's as well as MG 115 JHP's. And I run only WAC powder. Matt I've had 2 ti comp made by another gunsmith, I liked how the gun handled, but both of them cracked Have yours had any issues And do you run any barrel porting Thanks Ray In 4 years I have had two of Matt's Ti comps and neither has shown any sign of weakness as of yet. I don't have barrel holes in my gun but I'm sure Matt has done several because some guys really like them. But his comp is very effective without them in my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelGj Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 We're trying to make the dot track predictably and that usually means as straight up and down as possible (usually ends up being up and to right right a bit). It's all a balancing act. In addition to that is what YOU like in a comp. I prefer something with a little more lift, I find it much easier to call shots. Heck, look at the setup Max uses, it's a Trubor with a nearly full weight slide. YOU might like something different. What Power Factor would you recommend for your TI Comp ?? I'm not Matt but I run his Open guns with his latest Ti Comp Exclusively. Like most comps his prefer a little more gas before they really kick in. I found my gun handled best at about 174-175 PF. That was with MG 121's as well as MG 115 JHP's. And I run only WAC powder. I'll try to bump up the PF, at this point I'm running at 170'ish with 7.55 grn of 3N37 powder. I do have some Vectan SP2 as well to play with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWLAZS Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I ran some 3n38 with 121's in Matt's guns at 175ish power factor. It was like cheating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Cheely Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 (edited) Matt I've had 2 ti comp made by another gunsmith, I liked how the gun handled, but both of them cracked Have yours had any issues And do you run any barrel porting Thanks Ray I've never had one of my comps crack or fail. I don't run porting on my gun, but I do put a couple of holes in guns for customers that like it a little flatter. It is important to note that there are multiple grades of titanium, the kind I use for comps is 6 times more expensive than your run of the mill titanium stock. Edited November 3, 2014 by Matt Cheely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rishii Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Thanks I'm gald yours is hold up to the abuse we put them thru My last 2 didn't make it thru 20,000 rounds I thought I was done with Ti forever, but I'll be looking at yours in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWLAZS Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Mats comps hold up well. If I can't break one I doubt anyone can. Mine all look like new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jid2 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 For anyone interested in a comp like mine I've built more and am setup as a vendor here, http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=206151 Latest run I made a little tweak to the exit port. And here is a better shot of it on the gun, although edited for explicit content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lrjet Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Jid2: on your slide cuts did you use an EDM machine. Sure it's been ask many times but is your new red dot still making progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Cheely Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 FYI, for people that expressed interest, my comp is now available in stainless steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaShot Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Allen Ziita in VT makes an outstanding it is made from multiple parts and costs around $1,200. that said I want one and it is hard not only to come up with the money but equally hard to get him to commit to building one. He seems to focus on 3-Gun ARs. and AKs. Aside from that I love the Bedell Titanium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jid2 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Jid2: on your slide cuts did you use an EDM machine. Sure it's been ask many times but is your new red dot still making progress. - 3 Axis CNC, no EDM - Shooting latest sight proto next weekend at a local 3 Gun match - Have lots of comps ready for those who want them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majja Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Just curious since I am just getting back into this how was the drop in power factor effected the comp design. I noticed now that most are back to 3 or 4 port comps at most? Just wondering. I am currently loading up some 115's with 3n37 to try in my Nowlin and do a little spring tuning to boot. What weight spring are most of you running on your 38 SC guns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renowell Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Jid2: on your slide cuts did you use an EDM machine. Sure it's been ask many times but is your new red dot still making progress. - 3 Axis CNC, no EDM - Shooting latest sight proto next weekend at a local 3 Gun match - Have lots of comps ready for those who want them. Can you give an update on how the new sight ran? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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