MarkCO Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Maybe a year ago the 930 would have held a larger share. While the people who post on Enos are a small share, the poll results reflect pretty close to what I have seen at matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaZeNuTZ33 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Maybe a year ago the 930 would have held a larger share. While the people who post on Enos are a small share, the poll results reflect pretty close to what I have seen at matches. Same here. I see two types of shooters running the 930 right now: 1) The beginner who either found one new or had one already as a relatively low cost and already "set up" (JM model for instance) to try the sport 2) The dabler...the guy who likes 3-Gun but doesn't have the commitment, desire, or possibly funds to push it beyond having fun several weekends per year at club matches. The M2 and Versamax seem to reign supreme at the matches I've attended all year, and both seem to have their plusses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtp Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) I'm very surprised so many more are running Versamaxs than 930s. I didn't see that coming at all. Flavor of the month effect, IMO - everyone's looking for a 'cheap Benelli' competitor. Mossberg didn't do itself any favors with quality issues (resolved now or not), and the VersaMax came out as an 'intermediate'/slightly lower cost vs a Benelli. Doesn't mean none of the guns ran (still running), but people also tend to get gear upgrade-itis now and then, as well. Now of course, we're seeing VMs needing replacement parts..from Benelli. Good guns, but nothing's perfect, will be interesting to see where things are in another year or two. Note the lack of FN SLPs in the above, as well. RE: someone saying people shooting 930s aren't 'serious,' whatever that means...we've got a good group of 930s (and VMs, handful of Benellis) running locally, with a fair number of them shooting 1-2 matches each and every weekend, and shooting year round, so - not sure if that's 'serious' enough for you? If it runs/while it runs, why not use it? Not everyone has had chronic issues with theirs. I don't see the CZ represented very well in this poll (cheaper 'low cost flavor of the month/year'), so am curious to see what happens if we do this as a yearly poll. I might let upgrade-itis move me to an M2 by then, especially if I came across a nice used copy, may be shooting the 930 still, or give a Stoeger a try.. Edited October 27, 2014 by rtp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaZeNuTZ33 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 My comment about getting serious about it comes into reliability. I started with a JM930 and was happy and fine until about 3500ish rounds and it cost me a kit of places at Fallen Brethren in 2012. When I decided to hit practice harder and more matches, I bought my M2 and it hasn't disappointed me. For the guy shooting clubs matches and not practicing much, almost any gun will work. If you're shooting and practicing every weekend and shooting 10-15 major matches per year, I'd want to spend the extra money on a reliable platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoops! Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Once you're sponsored to shoot a gun you can't make certain comments about it . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Snyder Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I'll stick with my M1 until it looks as beat up as Jeff Cramblitt's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMonty Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Benelli M2 with the Triangle Tactical package has never failed me. Eats walmart bulk ammo with ease and runs like crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co-exprs Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 (edited) You forgot to add the SuperNova. I often run that in Limited Division instead of my semiauto. Edited November 12, 2014 by co-exprs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 You forgot to add the SuperNova. I often run that in Limited Division instead of my semiauto. It's on there with the Nova. Same basic gun different stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co-exprs Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 LOL, your right I was being funny... And I missed it on the list. I was serious about Limited Division though. I won HOA at the local 3 gun match a couple weeks ago, running my S Nova in limited. I'm pretty sure both of the hot rod Open guys had major equipment issues,... But I'll still take the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langenator Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Cz-712. Got it when it was the low cost option, before the Stoeger hit the scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3324temp Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Running an m2. Really want to try out a Versamax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Norman Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 My opinion and that is all it is, but I think we'll see a crapload more S3Ks out there as they become more widely known. 1/2 the price of the Benelli and they tun. I can have two guns set up for the price of one or a boatful of ammo for practice. To date I have had exactly two Failures to feed, they could have been me, they might have been Fiocchi Low recoil Slug issues. I can tell you this, a buddy has a 1301 that is supposed to run light stuff and an inertia gun isn't, but my S3K runs WallyWorld Winchester 3dr 1-1/8 #7-1/2 and 8 an the 1301 chokes on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 My opinion and that is all it is, but I think we'll see a crapload more S3Ks out there as they become more widely known. 1/2 the price of the Benelli and they tun. I can have two guns set up for the price of one or a boatful of ammo for practice. To date I have had exactly two Failures to feed, they could have been me, they might have been Fiocchi Low recoil Slug issues. I can tell you this, a buddy has a 1301 that is supposed to run light stuff and an inertia gun isn't, but my S3K runs WallyWorld Winchester 3dr 1-1/8 #7-1/2 and 8 an the 1301 chokes on it. I might be piloting a M3K and a P350 in 2015. Good guns at a friendly price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Any chance your buddies 1301 has a really long mag tube on it? Just curious as to what the difference between his and mine would be, I've got about 2000 rounds through mine without a single hiccup. Half of that is split between wally world winchester and even worse yet, the tulammo suprema (gasp!) junk they now sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Tell us more about this p350 Pat? Im unfamiliar with such things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Norman Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 he's got a long tube and likes to clip the spring as short as possible. but I don't think that is the issue as it is not a feed issue, but a cycling issue. the empty is not being ejected, the next round is waiting on the lifter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powderman81 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I ran a Franchi Affinity for 2 years with no problems; that includes 2 Ironmans, 2 Texas Multiguns, and 1 RM3G. Next year I'm running a 1301...it will actually shoot shells lighter than 1200fps reliably. LOL. Powderman81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I ran a Franchi Affinity for 2 years with no problems; that includes 2 Ironmans, 2 Texas Multiguns, and 1 RM3G. Next year I'm running a 1301...it will actually shoot shells lighter than 1200fps reliably. LOL. Powderman81 Indeed it will, the other 1000 rounds of my shotgun's diet had been rem gun club and federal pink hulled target loads, both at 1145 fps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co-exprs Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 The P350 is Stoeger's pump gun. Uses the same basic action as the Benelli, without all the polymer. It uses the same twist bolt as the Nova, but has the S3000 shell catch. Has a nicely shaped lifter and the safety is in the right spot too. I might be picking one up soon to mess with also. We'll see if the budget allows another project gun over the winter. The only draw backs I can see with the P350 is that the lifter doesn't stay depressed during loading. Don't know if it will matter, but I did notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) I I ran a Franchi Affinity for 2 years with no problems; that includes 2 Ironmans, 2 Texas Multiguns, and 1 RM3G. Next year I'm running a 1301...it will actually shoot shells lighter than 1200fps reliably. LOL. Powderman81 I just bought an Affinity. Funny ive never heard anyone say "I never could have won that match if it wasn't for those 1145fps shells." Edited November 14, 2014 by Jesse Tischauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I see. I googled it right after I asked the question but you where way more descriptive than stoegers website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powderman81 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I I ran a Franchi Affinity for 2 years with no problems; that includes 2 Ironmans, 2 Texas Multiguns, and 1 RM3G. Next year I'm running a 1301...it will actually shoot shells lighter than 1200fps reliably. LOL. Powderman81 I just bought an Affinity. Funny ive never heard anyone say "I neverceoukd have won that match if it wasn't for those 1145fps shells." It never was an issue until I loaded up 350+ shells for Ironman this year. I chrono'd them at 1215fps and put 3 shells in the gun to check for function. It turns out it makes a difference with inertia ran autoloaders when there is 10 shells in the gun vs 3. I had to shoot and then hand cycle every other shell through the first stage. Not the guns fault...it was an oversight on my part. It has never given me any issues when I feed it good food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zimm33 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Wow surprised by the lack of SLP's. I guess I need to get out more and try some others! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co-exprs Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 SLP would have remained a major player, had FNH made the gun we were all asking for, when we were asking for it. The 24" VR Competition model would have been terrific, but FNH was slow to respond to market demand and other options came along. The SLP is still a good shotgun for the game. It just sorta gets lost in a much broader selection than it used too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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