Blvck Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Very recently got into reloading 9mm's since me an my dad have gotten into competition shooting our current load is as follows... Xtreme 9mm HP 124gn Random Range Brass Bullseye 4.0 gr OAL 1.145 As we all know the gunpowder situation can come an go is there any powders I should look into that have similar characteristics or maybe even been an in which ways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngeyes Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) Welcome to the forums. There's a ton of info here on 9mm loads and powders in this section. Edited August 12, 2014 by Youngeyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ85Combat Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 look for N320, Burns clean & recoil is soft. down fall is it cost more and is hard to find. If you find it buy what you can, If you don't like it you can sell it (you will have people beating down your door to buy it from you). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justsomeguy Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Red Dot, Promo, e3, and TightGroup all have their proponents in 9mm for faster powders with light loads. In the medium burners I tend to favor True Blue or Silhouette (if you can find them), but you take what you can get nowadays. Almost any powder that will burn completely in a 9mm pistol will give decent results if you load it right, so you will see almost all powders mentioned if you do a search. Bullseye would not be my first choice as a 9mm powder. It was one of the first (if not THE first) smokeless pistol powder, and most users find it on the dirty side but with acceptable accuracy. There are others that will burn cleaner, have a wider load range in many calibers, and be more accurate in most guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safeactionjackson Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 look for N320, Burns clean & recoil is soft. down fall is it cost more and is hard to find. If you find it buy what you can, If you don't like it you can sell it (you will have people beating down your door to buy it from you). I've been using Titegroup for 9mm with excellent results, my supply is winding down... I should begin working up VV N320 loads within the next couple of weeks.... I've got 32 lbs of it, and while it is surely more expensive than Titegroup, I jumped at the opportunity to secure a fair amount. ~g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blvck Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share Posted August 12, 2014 Yeah this powder situation has me very discouraged. It's like trying to find a unicorn out here in California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJE Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) I scored 8lbs of Red Dot and 8lbs of Bullseye today. So, I'm set for about 35,000 rounds of 9mm, or a bit less since some of it will go in 45 as well. Edited August 12, 2014 by AJE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blvck Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share Posted August 12, 2014 I scored 8lbs of Red Dot and 8lbs of Bullseye today. So, I'm set for about 35,000 rounds of 9mm, or a bit less since some of it will go in 45 as well. That doesn't help me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I live in SoCal as well. Getting powder here does feel impossible at times. I finally broke down and paid almost double retail for what I wanted on gun broker. I may have gotten robbed on the price, but I got the powder I wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safeactionjackson Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Not much local, the interwebs is your friend! ~g Sent from my iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJE Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I scored 8lbs of Red Dot and 8lbs of Bullseye today. So, I'm set for about 35,000 rounds of 9mm, or a bit less since some of it will go in 45 as well. That doesn't help me.The store puts 8lbers on gunbroker. They have them in stock... That's something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blvck Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 I scored 8lbs of Red Dot and 8lbs of Bullseye today. So, I'm set for about 35,000 rounds of 9mm, or a bit less since some of it will go in 45 as well. That doesn't help me.The store puts 8lbers on gunbroker. They have them in stock... That's something. definitely look into that... just hard to be patient when everyone around me seems to have 30 + lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholastheczar Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I just scored 32lbs of Bullseye from my local reloading shop and have been using Win231 before that for all of my 9mm loads. But at this point, I think you'll have more luck finding Bullseye than Win231. BTW I'm running 3.1gr of Bullseye with SNS Casting 125gr RN at 1.100". Chrono's right around 960 or so, very soft shooting and perfect for 3 gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesquire Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Red Dot, Promo, e3, and TightGroup all have their proponents in 9mm for faster powders with light loads. In the medium burners I tend to favor True Blue or Silhouette (if you can find them), but you take what you can get nowadays. Almost any powder that will burn completely in a 9mm pistol will give decent results if you load it right, so you will see almost all powders mentioned if you do a search. Bullseye would not be my first choice as a 9mm powder. It was one of the first (if not THE first) smokeless pistol powder, and most users find it on the dirty side but with acceptable accuracy. There are others that will burn cleaner, have a wider load range in many calibers, and be more accurate in most guns. I use red dot exclusively for 9mm, I'm surprised you don't hear about it more. TG has pretty much cornered that market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buildit2 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 (edited) I've been testing powders for a while. Stay away from unique in my opinion. I've had good success with titegroup and longshot for all bullets and titewad for 115gr or lighter bullets. I've tried PB also but it is a very tight spec and results are all over. Edited August 17, 2014 by Buildit2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blvck Posted August 30, 2014 Author Share Posted August 30, 2014 Thanks for the replies everyone, so unique I definitely am not a fan of. I recently picked up some power pistol. Anyone have a load for competition use in a glock 34? We usually run our bullseye as followed... OAL 1.145 Xtreme HP Mixed Brass Bullseye 4.0 gn We've also played around with the flat points which aesthetically I love. I can't explain why. Same setup but the OAL is 1.125 Any advice or things I should look for? Also a load book I should look to purchase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdinga Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Let me share a tip someone on this forum shared with me. Go to either grafs or mid south shooters supply and back order the powder of your choice. You will probably have it sooner than you think. As far as powder selections other than bullseye. I have used and liked: WST ,231,wsf, VVn320 and powerpistol. My first choice is VVn320 with WST and WSF as tied for second place. I only load powerpistol in 147's. Using 4.5 grains with the precision delta 147 fmjfp. Or using the bayou 147 with 4 grains. Both work well in my 17L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I scored 8 lbs of Clay Dot from Midway last week. Shipped Friday. Sign up for notifications with several suppliers. The Clay Dot was gone in 10 minutes. You have to be quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Clays with 9mm and .45 ACP. 3.2 gr with a 130 LSWC gives 1007fps average. 4.2 in .45 with 200gr LSWC goes about 901.3 avg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grouptherapy Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 (edited) PP 4.5 gn behind a 125 coated shoots accurate. I load them short. 1.080 in a LWD barrel. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited August 31, 2014 by grouptherapy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 look for N320, Burns clean & recoil is soft. down fall is it cost more and is hard to find. If you find it buy what you can, If you don't like it you can sell it (you will have people beating down your door to buy it from you). I've been using Titegroup for 9mm with excellent results, my supply is winding down... I should begin working up VV N320 loads within the next couple of weeks.... I've got 32 lbs of it, and while it is surely more expensive than Titegroup, I jumped at the opportunity to secure a fair amount. ~g 32 lbs? We know why there is a shortage now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grouptherapy Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Just curious what was total cost? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeman711 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Try Win. AutoComp,HS-6, and Silouette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safeactionjackson Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 look for N320, Burns clean & recoil is soft. down fall is it cost more and is hard to find. If you find it buy what you can, If you don't like it you can sell it (you will have people beating down your door to buy it from you). I've been using Titegroup for 9mm with excellent results, my supply is winding down... I should begin working up VV N320 loads within the next couple of weeks.... I've got 32 lbs of it, and while it is surely more expensive than Titegroup, I jumped at the opportunity to secure a fair amount. ~g 32 lbs? We know why there is a shortage now. Not really, but its the most affordable way to purchase supplies.... in bulk. None of it has been resold for profit! Just curious what was total cost? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk If you are referring to the 32lbs... it was $105 for a 4lb keg.... plus shipping/hazmet. ~g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grouptherapy Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Thanks Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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