Philo_Beddoe Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I am reading Ben Stoeger's Practical Pistol: Fundamental Techniques and Competition Skills book. Ben recommends gripping the gun hard, but if I grip the gun as hard as I can, my hands start to tremor causing the front sight to move around. Is it really advisable to grip the gun so hard your hands start to tremor causing the front sight to move around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidgun Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 How hard can you grip the gun without shaking? I have a friend who is in your situation and she grips it hard as she can, but over time her muscles get tired and starts shaking again. This is very noticeable while practicing, but not as much on short stages. I know it isn't just as simple as exercising the lean muscles for some people, but if you believe this can be overcome by strength workouts, I would begin there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo_Beddoe Posted July 3, 2014 Author Share Posted July 3, 2014 How hard can you grip the gun without shaking? I know it isn't just as simple as exercising the lean muscles for some people, but if you believe this can be overcome by strength workouts, I would begin there. Hard, my deadlift work set is 455lbs for 7 reps. I have a strong grip, but when I death grip the gun I get tremors, I would bet most people have tremors when the squeeze at 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atbarr Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 LOL, a death grip is not needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssanders224 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 LOL, a death grip is not needed. I guess it depends on what your definition of "need" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atbarr Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 LOL, a death grip is not needed. I guess it depends on what your definition of "need" is. If you use 'your' grip of death (Hard as possible) on each stage, you 'might' be fatigued after a few stages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bountyhunter Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I am reading Ben Stoeger's Practical Pistol: Fundamental Techniques and Competition Skills book. Ben recommends gripping the gun hard, but if I grip the gun as hard as I can, my hands start to tremor causing the front sight to move around. Is it really advisable to grip the gun so hard your hands start to tremor causing the front sight to move around?No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glockified Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I have found that 100% grip strength is not needed, especially if you keep your elbows high so that your hands naturally clamp both sides of the gun. Don't get me wrong, I do have a firm grip, but it is not 100% and there is no tremor when I do it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo-Hombre Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 For me grip consistency and attention to trigger control yields the best results. But it is probably dependent on your inherent grip strength. If guys like Stegger and Latham say squeeze it hard I'd believe em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheelGunHunter Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I do what Rob says I recommend watching the entire interview but at 3:40 is where he talks about gripping a firearm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike cyrwus Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I know several excellent instructors who say to grip until you start shaking, then let off until you dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sac Law Man Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Grip strength is relative to the shooter.. 80% to one person may be the equivalent of 50% to another. Also, more grip pressure may be needed when shooting a 1911 in 45, versus a soft shooting Glock 9mm. You want to grip the gun as hard as you can but not cause shaking or affect your trigger pull. Shoot a drill like a Bill Drill with factory 45 ammo and you will see what grip strength is needed to control recoil and negate the effects of trigger pull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moltke Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Grip until you shake then back off just a little, make sure your trigger finger can manipulate the trigger properly, flare your elbows out a little to increase torque on the gun without increasing muscle fatigue in your hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryFive0 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 I have seen and heard this topic or question a lot. Many people, me included, say grip the gun hard. However, I have never seen anybody say grip the gun 100% of your grip strength. Nobody would ever be able to keep that up for more than a few seconds and you would tire your forearms very quickly. Find a way to work on grip strength and it will definitely help. You can use the grip trainers or find a way to incorporate it into workouts. Pullups and barbell work (dead lifts, cleans, ect) will greatly increase your grip strength. Rob Leatham in the video explains it as clear as it can be. No percentages, no numbers, just as hard as you can with out influencing your trigger finger and with out causing tremors. He also mentions when shooting fast. I know I grip a lot harder on close arrays than I do on long partials and steel because I am driving the gun harder for splits and transitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermoto Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 I grip the gun hard, but you don't have to grip 100% the whole stage. Just during splits and fast transitions. Relax during movement and reloads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxDRBxx Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 How about your weak hand (or off hand) grip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermoto Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Do your mean my weak hand while shooting 2 handed? I grip almost as hard as I can. Shooting weak handed only, I loosen my grip because I can't work my weak hand trigger finger as smoothly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Hard, my deadlift work set is 455lbs for 7 reps. I have a strong grip, but when I death grip the gun I get tremors, I would bet most people have tremors when the squeeze at 100%. Deadlifting isn't the same as focused grip work. My work sets are in the high 300s and I'll do singles in the low 400s, but a CoC #1 gives me a good gripping workout. I grip the gun as hard as I can without shaking. It makes a world of difference in split times on mid-range targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moltke Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 OP have you tried any of this? What are your results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmmoGuy Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I am reading Ben Stoeger's Practical Pistol: Fundamental Techniques and Competition Skills book. Ben recommends gripping the gun hard, but if I grip the gun as hard as I can, my hands start to tremor causing the front sight to move around. Is it really advisable to grip the gun so hard your hands start to tremor causing the front sight to move around? Gripping hard, dosen't mean as hard as you can. Just hard enough so it does not restrict the trigger finger freedom of movement during multiple shots, if that causes trembling get a handgrip exerciser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregInAtl Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I have found that every time my accuracy starts to drop, if I start gripping the gun tighter, my accuracy starts to improve again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo_Beddoe Posted August 4, 2014 Author Share Posted August 4, 2014 OP have you tried any of this? What are your results? I have not tried anything, I was always gripping the gun hard, just not to the point that I induced tremors. Per the Leatham vid and my own facilties of discernment I decided to just continue gripping the gun the way I always had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxximuss Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Grip firm, not HARD. You need to have a good solid grip to battle muzzle flip, not squeeze the life out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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